(10-07-2017, 07:20 PM)wesen Wrote: Didn't Nick go and visit Henrietta to talk to her about Juliette? Henrietta never gave him much help apart from just advice, which wasn't really helpful at all.
Nick went to Henrietta to accuse her of trying to prolong Juliette's hexenbiest. He never went there for help.
(10-07-2017, 07:20 PM)wesen Wrote: As for Wu checking up on Juliette, Nick was aware how dangerous Juliette was becoming. would he really risk his friend's life just to appease Juliette?
Who said anything about appeasing Juliette? I was talking about Nick's so called concern for the person who you say he placed on a pedestal. Besides that, you have no support for the statement that Wu's life would be in danger for checking on Juliette. Rosalee went to check on her in jail and Juliette did absolutely nothing to her.
(10-07-2017, 10:47 AM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Iruk,
The "frog girl" you refer to is a Folterseele:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Folterseele
Hi New Guy-
I know that she was called a Folterseele. However, I like frog girl. It gets right to the point, in my opinion of course.
(10-07-2017, 10:47 AM)New Guy Wrote: You are correct that Bella could not control her lethal toxin:
Quote:Folterseele are known for being always beautiful, yet always deadly. They do not woge like any other Wesen; they only woge as a defense mechanism when someone is sexually attracted to them. They secrete batrachotoxins from their skin, which is most closely related to that of the Golden poison frog (Phyllobates terribilis). Any contact with this toxin is extremely lethal, . .
Contrast that to Juliette going to the bar. She was in total control. She chose to go and planned to cause trouble. Bella only wanted to enjoy riding her bike with friends.
Bella did not select Zack as her victim. He tried to force himself on her and she resisted. Juliette went to the bar and selected Rick to be her victim.
Actually, New Guy, there's no evidence to support that Juliette went to the bar to cause trouble. She went in alone and planned on being alone. The guy was the one to approach her and when she got ready to leave, he restrained her.
And to be honest, Bella and Juliette's circumstances were quite similar. They were two women who wanted to be left alone pursued by two men who didn't want to leave them alone. You say Zack tried to force himself on Bella. In reality, all Bella wanted to do was leave.
Surprise, surprise, Rick tried to force himself on Juliette by restraining her when she wanted to leave. Zack ended up dead, Rick ended up across the room on his butt.
Not a lot of difference I would say. Also of interest, the two episodes were both in the 4th season and within a few weeks of one another. I wonder if Bella would have retained the same sympathy, had Juliette's episode aired first and hers later.
(10-07-2017, 10:47 AM)New Guy Wrote: IMO, Bella was an innocent victim of circumstances beyond her control. Juliette was a guilty perpetrator of violence and totally in control. IMO, Juliette planned the entire bar crime and wanted to be arrested and incarcerated. By the way, another PPD officer arrested Juliette, not Nick. He did agree with her arrest, but it was not is decision.
I thought it interesting that while Nick goes to great lengths and trouble to investigate wesen killings, he didn't go to that trouble for the one person who enabled him to be a grimm again.
The title of the thread is Does Nick hold Juliette to different standards than everyone else?
So it would seem.
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