06-06-2018, 08:02 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-06-2018, 08:08 AM by dicappatore.)
(06-06-2018, 04:25 AM)irukandji Wrote:(06-05-2018, 10:35 AM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Iruk,
So the scene where Juliette sent the betrayal email was "supposition and speculation?"
Wasn't it? Tell me how that made it apparent that Kelly was not only going to show up, but show up with Diana in tow.
(06-05-2018, 10:35 AM)New Guy Wrote: Was her information about Nick's house and the neighbors also "supposition and speculation?"
Did you know what Kenneth was going to do with that information?
(06-05-2018, 10:35 AM)New Guy Wrote: Was she not in the Nick's house during this scene?
She was. And?
(06-05-2018, 10:35 AM)New Guy Wrote: Was she not in the "get away car during this scene?:
She rode up in a car. I would expect her to leave the same way.
(06-05-2018, 10:35 AM)New Guy Wrote: Did you ever actually watch Grimm? LOL!
N G
Hey New Guy,
I never took you for a follower. I'm wondering why now you let the antics of simpletons on the forum direct not only you but your questions as well. No doubt you were pm'd and told to ask me this.
(06-05-2018, 10:47 PM)syscrash Wrote: New Guy
Here is the problem with your position. Even the audience did not know Kenneth was going to kill Kelly until he did. Yet you go on and on as if Juliette planned some Kelly assassination. At no time was the audience even given the slightest hint that the assistance Kenneth was asking of Juliette would lead to death. In fact the show replayed the scene, having Chavez prove no one needed to die. Do you also realize Nick is the only character that has taken the position of blaming Juliette for Kelly's death. Consider this point when you blame Juliette. Everything she did could have ended with Kenneth chloroforming Kelly like Chavez did Nick. It was Kenneth that decided to decapitate Kelly. Even in the epilogue in case someone was not sure. In case someone may have thought Juliette could have been told off screen. The writers added the narrative confirming she did not know.
What you are asking is for us to blame Juliette because her assistance was used to kill Kelly. It is one thing to provide assistance in executing the kill. It is another for what you did to be used to kill.
In case you still don't see the difference lets use an example. It is one thing to load a gun hand it to someone and they use it to kill. It is another for someone to ask you to show them how to load a gun that they take an kill someone with. In both actions someone died because of your assistance. The difference, the first was the direct cause. The second was the consequence not the cause. We are responsible when was cause something. We are not responsible if our action have unforeseen consequences. Chavez proved Kelly dying was an unforeseen consequence of Juliettes assistance.
Isn't it amazing how what extreams some will go to make excuses for an evil character.
Does it matter if she did not know the details and to what extent Kenneth would go to get Diana.
Does it matter if she did not expect the results as they were after the fact?
Does it matter if some believe she did not betray Kelly because Kelly too stupid to trust her?
Does it matter if, we the viewing audience, were privy to what we saw that the characters did not?
Does it matter if she broke any criminal laws whether they could be proven or not?
Does it matter if she was an accomplice before or after the fact?
How can you all blame the scobies for kidnapping Diana the 1st time yet overlook this kidnapping?
How can some of you call out Nick to be corrupted yet call this character did no wrong?
Are the two or three wack jobs aware what they are defending?. Yea call me a name caller or whatever other name you wish to pick, Will this get me banned from the forum? I don't give a didly-squat. If you are defending/excusing this Juliette characters, of how this character turned into, I'd be worried more about your moral compass. Maybe I should retract the "wack-job" name to immoral, degenerate, criminal, wicked, decadent. Would that make it any better?
Thank God you Juliette sympathizers are in the minority, labeling this as a difference of opinions. Thank God the majority of the world's population does not think or react the way you Juliette arses-kisser opine. Plus, it further makes me wonder of your upbringing, for you's to excuse or justify what this character did.
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!