(01-20-2018, 02:47 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: And you can never "force" anyone to attack you. If you attack first, then what the other party does is self defense.
Okay, call it entrapment then. Nick and company used what they knew about the kinoshimobe to entice it to attack. You can always look at it this way: If they hadn't been in the forest pouring liquids into the soil, the kinoshimobe would have never attacked them.
(01-20-2018, 02:47 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: The first thing Nick did when the kinoshunibe made its appearance was try to talk to it. The only reason to talk to it rather then immediately shooting it with herbicide the moment it appeared would be if he was hoping to convince it to stop killing people. It's not as if he could have put it under arrest.
If Nick tried to talk to the kinoshimobe, then he must have considered it to have the same type of understanding and intellect as a normal human or wesen. IMO.
(01-20-2018, 08:34 AM)Robyn Wrote:(01-20-2018, 07:49 AM)irukandji Wrote: Reading this raised another question in my mind. Would the kinoshimobe considered an intelligent creature in line with humans and wesen?Probably considered in line with Wesen, but not humans. Your question reminded me of Nick being overcome with guilt after killing the guy in the bar and Renard challenging if he’d have the same remorse over unintentionally killing a Wesen.
This is an interesting thought. Renard stating that to Nick seems to confirm that grimms consider themselves higher on the evolutionary scale than wesen.
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