(12-27-2017, 11:11 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: Conditions are different. Nick had been eager to take things to the next level before he even lost his Grimm after she knew the truth and she turned him down. There's a difference between hypothetical, potential children and Kelly existing in the flesh. Adalind never presented Nick with a choice of either Grimm or family life, the two were already synonymous since she could no more separate her hexenbiest from her family life. Juliette made it seem like they couldn't have both family and Nick as a Grimm, one had to be sacrificed.
In all fairness to Juliette, she didn't hook up with Nick the Grimm. She hooked up with Nick the cop. She didn't have a choice when Nick began to experience the physical signs that led him to be a grimm. Could Nick have ignored the symptoms and remained a detective once he knew all there was to being a grimm? We'll never know because he never gave Juliette a choice. When Marie warned him about staying with Juliette, even then, he didn't reveal anything to her.
I understand Juliette wanting the normal life. She spoke to Nick about it, but I never got the impression she was giving him a choice. It sounded to me like Nick himself was setting up the choices, with normalcy on one end and the grimm life on the other.
(12-27-2017, 11:11 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: Nick clearly didn't since he continued to propose marriage and would have asked again in S3 had his mother not showed up with Adalind and baby Diana. He only considered the consequences of being in a relationship when Juliette became a hexenbiest and was attacked and eventually killed by Zerstörer, he had no such thoughts concerning Adalind. In fact he did everything to he knew possible to get her back.
I would consider multiple proposals if Nick did what he did the first time he proposed. In other words, he asked Juliette to marry him and presented her with a ring as a token of his troth. That did not happen.
Instead, Nick was interrupted by circumstances which, actually weren't beyond his control. He could have found another time and place to propose (the couch is rather tacky), but instead it seems to me that Nick might have been relieved that he avoided the plunge.
(12-27-2017, 11:11 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: A marriage cannot exist unless two both people chose to marry (these days forced marriages are frowned upon and hardly ever take place anymore because society has evolved and rightfully so), as the Bible says, how can two people walk together unless they both agree? Nick and Juliette had plenty of opportunities to "walk together" on the important issues in their relationship and sadly, deep down they never agreed, hence Juliette denying Nick's proposal not once but twice before Nick's grimmlessness/her hexenbiestness became a serious thorn in their side.
You also mentioned that no marriage can be built on lies and secrets and survive. I agree with this. Nick's grimm lifestyle is one of secrets and I think this is a major reason why Nick chose not to marry.
Nick's grimm lifestyle, to put it mildly, is bizarre. He's had all sorts of weird encounters with wesen and has been personally affected by some of them. Take the muse, for instance. Nick was lovesick as the result of her spell. He didn't confide in anyone about the effects, became violent, and was heading down a path of destruction. Fortunately, Renard stepped in and forced the muse out of town. Juliette was left to clean up the mess, which she did gladly, as Nick stood by her while she was in coma.
It's conceivable that Nick could very easily encounter another muse. There will be no Renard to force her out of town or an understanding Juliette to pick up the pieces, should there be a rescue for Nick. To add an additional burden, Adalind has never had to deal with the peculiar physical effects that Nick has personally experienced.
At least as Nick's domestic partner, Adalind has the freedom to leave if it gets too much for her. As a wife, she doesn't have that freedom.
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