(12-23-2017, 09:54 AM)irukandji Wrote:(12-23-2017, 07:39 AM)brandon Wrote: what happened to Nick would rather say that it is like when you have so much agitation that everything seems unreal.
He suddenly saw father ,with a woman who never had a good opinion because of his fights.Hide her from her ex girlfriend,his dead mother
I don't necessarily agree with the premise of Nick and Adalind clicking. To me, their relationship often seemed awkward. And actually, I didn't mind that. It makes sense. An instant charisma and fake love between them just wouldn't be believable. However, I was surprised by Nick's reaction when Adalind told him she loved him. He apparently had a problem returning her confession, but yet had no issue with sleeping with her. That bothers me a bit. I would have preferred an adult Nick who simply admitted he just wasn't "there yet" as far as loving her, and gently helped her put her shirt back on.
Absolutely. The Nick/Adalind interaction was awkward very early on, as it should have been for quite some time. The problem with the show’s presentation of Nick/Adalind wasn’t that an eventual relationship & family wasn’t believable, but that the transition was too fast paced and haphazard.
I thought Nick was a selfish jerk when he had sex with Adalind after she tearfully dropped the L bomb, as well as when he dismissed her confession about Renard knowing where Diana was and that he would use the child to compromise her. But it’s reasonable to believe that G & K assumed most viewers would excuse Nick’s behavior simply because it was Nick. In comparison, had the same scene played out with Renard or Meisner, or any other male character who immediately became distant afterwards, I suspect those characters would have likely had many vile descriptions posted about their deplorable behavior toward Adalind.
To me, the ‘click’ was that Adalind was written to be exactly what Nick wanted, unconditionally. She was predisposed to trusting the Grimm Team as her friends and wanting a ‘normal relationship’ in the second episode of S5. And for me, the character’s evolution didn’t really go anywhere from there other than continuously striving to earn Nick’s and his friends' acceptance.
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I know that how I view characters and what I want from a show is different than most. I’m not drawn to a character because he/she is good, or evil for that matter. I only want the characters to be sufficiently interesting to draw me back for the next chapter in their stories. So I’m not inclined to excuse Nick when he behaves like a selfish jerk because he’s the Grimm/central character or excuse his love interest’s unrealistic behavior & mindset - whether Juliette or Adalind - because her wants & needs are written to revolve around Nick, the Grimm/central character.
That said, I want to touch on recent comments concerning disrespectful behavior on the forum because weeding through post after post to find the scarce few objective comments swallowed up in a barrage of crude accusatory retaliations has become more tiresome than I’m willing to contend with. Rpmaluki and I have had an ongoing discussion about Nick/Adalind for some time now, and while our positions are as opposite as they are adamant we haven’t needed to disrespect each other’s opinion in order to advance our debate. That kind of behavior doesn’t add to the discussion, it disrespects the participants and the purpose of the forum. A person isn’t right when they agree with us and wrong when they disagree with us. If everyone is expected to take a singular approach to the show and characters there really isn’t a need for a place to discuss a predetermined consensus.
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