(09-01-2017, 04:44 AM)irukandji Wrote:(08-31-2017, 10:03 PM)wesen Wrote: Change the thread? If you intended to stick to the original topic, you would give me reasons as to why Nick and Adalind clicked. The question wasn't 'Did Nick and Adalind click?' The question was 'Why did Nick and Adalind click?' Yes, there is a huge difference between those two questions. See if you can figure it out.
No it wasn't. Again, here is what you wrote:
Quote:I don't want to turn this into an Adalind vs Juliette bashing thread, I just want to give out some of the reasons why I think Adalind and Nick clicked much more than Nick and Juliette did.
That isn't the same thing as posting the question, "Why did Nick and Adalind click"? You never posted the question in your thread, nor were you specific that everyone had to agree with **what you think**
So why would I stick to the original topic when you yourself didn't even stick to the original topic? You stated you don't want to turn this into another Adalind vs Juliette bashing thread. Yet that's exactly what you did because you kept bringing Juliette into it.
And why not just tell me tell me you wanted to discuss why Nick and Adalind clicked when you saw my first post. That's it. Simple. Instead you continued to argue with my posts and that led me to believe you wanted to debate. *You* did that, not me.
Next time, be clear. No one knows exactly what you want to discuss when all you do is tell others what you think and don't pose the question you should have asked in the first place.
You completely ignored everything I just wrote (once again). You missed my point. I don't care if you disagreed with my opinions but if you want to argue with me, do so with examples and facts from the show. Your statements have been nothing but vague, inconsistent and written like fanfic, in your efforts to change/disregard/skew the official scenario to fit into what you think should have occurred. I joined this forum with the intention of discussing various aspects of my favourite show. Getting bogged down into this argument with you is tedious. I should have listened to another posters warning about you. Oh well, lesson learned I guess. Next time, l'll focus my efforts on those who can argue more effectively than you can. Have a good day.
I think it can be agreed that the writing wasn't exactly the best in this show, it was apparent even in the earlier seasons. Events and incidents that would have realistically been serious enough to change relationship dynamics and even cause crisis in a person's core being, are either swept away or turned into light hearted comments. Though the way the relationship between Nick and Adalind wasnt exactly as smoothly handled as I would have liked (Nick should have been shown to be pining more clearly for Adalind and not only for his son by the end of season 5), the writers didn't do too bad a job in selling the idea of Nick and Adalind (foes turning into lovers) coming together and falling in love. I don't know if it was mostly due to the cast rather than the writing, but I preferred it more than juliette and Nick's relationship. Their relationship became so awful to me that every time I saw them on screen, I tried not to groan because I didn't want to see Nick acting like a puppy in trying desperately to please juliette only for juliette to still resent him.
(09-01-2017, 07:23 AM)dicappatore Wrote:Yes, juliette/Eve knew in the end that she could never go back with Nick. Deep down though, I think a part of her probably still wanted Nick back, no matter how unrealistic it was. Her talk with Diana shows this. That's why I wrote previously that the kindest thing she did for Nick was to release him from his guilt, and allow him to be at peace from everything that happened between them.(09-01-2017, 06:21 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: This isn't about Nick and Adalind but it does deal with this question and why Nick and Adalind could come together as a family. Eve/Juliette was healed by the stick this changed her hexenbiest spirit somehow it cleaned it in someway.
Eve/Juliette knew Nick for a long period and she knew that Nick could never of look on her again with love becasue his mother's death. Now if you leave a relationship buy mutual agreement as they had done in season 6 should we (I hate this word) assume that Eve/Juliette doesn't want anyone including others to cause pain to Nick and she thinks she has cause so much.
She also see Nick and Adalind trying to make and getting it done a Grimm hexenbiest thing work, but is worried that Adalind beast may not let this happen? So she has to question what will Adalind become, the good mother or the good hexenbiest?
Eve/Juliette doesn't want Nick back but feels she owes him some peace and hopes Adalind can give it to Nick but does have some doubts?
Thoughts ideas from this point?
js, I think you hit the nail on the head on how or what Juliette finally has become at the end.