07-02-2013, 02:02 PM
(07-02-2013, 08:36 AM)HellJacket Wrote: The way I pronounce it, I stress the second syllable in vampire. vamPIRE. In English (or at least that how they pronounced it in the episode), Geier is pretty much one syllable. "Geier" rhymes with "pire."Just for you I just did another partly rewatch of this episode to check the stressing of "vampire" and I still hear vAmpire - but I truely don't want to argue with a native speaker, for sure you are right. So, let's do it!
No, sir, I'm no vampire,
just a big-white-van geier!
(07-02-2013, 08:36 AM)HellJacket Wrote: Within the internal logic of the episode, do you really think the detectives would have been fooled by "vampire" icons? At no point at any time did Nick or company think, damn, we're up against vampires.
And if you referring to misdirecting the audience, are you really saying that the writers were trying to trick the audience into thinking "it was vampires" as opposed to the usual explanation of using wessen culture to explain legends? Really? You want to argue that ground?
As Wu said " Anybody believe in vampires?" and Nick answered a non-amused "Ha!", I was really sure that he was thinking about this could be true. He learned about many existing creatures he thought were just legends. What difference is there for you between a witch and a vampire? Why can't vampire-Wesen exist?
(07-02-2013, 08:36 AM)HellJacket Wrote: For the record, I'm saying this episode is an homage to vampires, aka the writers wanted a vampire episode and then reworked the archetypes (i.e. "wessified" them to make them work) to fit within the Grimm world. The fact they even mention vampires twice in the episode shows their is basis for this comparison (and it's not coincidence).
The second scene is where the forensics-lady says "Well, could be vampires or someone who wants to be a vampire." She gives three options: Vampires, dark rituals, much blood in a short time. This could include of course a little homage to vampires by the writers, but I'm not convinced.
(07-02-2013, 08:36 AM)HellJacket Wrote: You're a purist. Sorry, I had to get that out of the way. And Fevre Dream by George Martin does not approve.
OK, "your" vampires don't need to be undead and drink blood (the real thing, liquid, fresh, warm!)? It's enough to plug little holes into the victim's neck? I'm a purist and you are truely flexible
(07-02-2013, 12:20 PM)HellJacket Wrote: In any case, geiers are modeled after vultures, and I still feel the parallel works.Geiers are vulture, it's the german word for it, they don't have to be vampires to be interested in body parts. If you want to see a link to vampire legends, you're free to do so , for me there's not enough evidence.