11-24-2015, 12:34 PM
(11-24-2015, 12:22 PM)GrimmsterAla Wrote: Thanks for the lovely reply!Just to add my small 2 cents looks like almost all wesen fear or hate hexenbeist as much as they do Grimm's maybe there is question or thread in there? Why?
(11-23-2015, 05:32 PM)irukandji Wrote: Your statement about the hexenbiest not being defined (paraphrasing here) has got me to thinking. I said this to grimmfan14 earlier, but I'll repeat it here. Maybe what we're seeing is Juliette's attempt to keep the hexenbiest at bay rather than accepting it. Perhaps pointing a gun at Monroe, dropping the statue near Adalind, and throwing Nick around are physical manifestations of her anger that have nothing to do with embracing the hexenbiest. Maybe it's Juliette who's using the hexenbiest.
Man, now you have ME thinking! haha
(11-23-2015, 05:32 PM)irukandji Wrote: I'm not against him fighting for his son. I think that's great. It's my hope that he realizes that he can no longer be the corrupt cop now that he has someone who depends on him. I personally would like to see Adalind move into her own digs though, along with having a non romantic relationship with her so that he can visit his son. He owes her nothing in my opinion.
I don't believe he owes her anything either. They both owe their son a happy and safe life but that doesn't mean they have to do it as a couple. For me I see the potential of them as a couple and it's not about a debt or responsibility but something more hopeful.
(11-23-2015, 05:32 PM)irukandji Wrote: But you pointed out something important a few posts ago when you said the two hexenbiests are not alike. That is very true. What might have been harmless to Adalind may have been deadly to Juliette. Juliette questioned the scoobies about the potion and found out Adalind made it. I think was she probably was remembering at that point was when Adalind came to her house and tried to kill her.
Adalind failed there, but could she succeed with the unwitting help of the scoobies? This thought could have crossed Juliette's mind.
As a side note, this scene has always been a troubling one to me for a variety of reasons. First, the fact that Nick, Hank, and Monroe were there. Nick and Hank were armed. Juliette gets blamed for turning the gun on Monroe, but why were Nick and Hank there in the first place? Why did Monroe need to be there? This argument has come up before and I've always wondered why Hank drew his gun on her? They all get weirded out by her power but maybe if the men hadn't come at all, things may have worked out differently. Juliette certainly couldn't have felt comfortable with armed men in the room.
Good theory! I believe that whole situation was getting worse and worse by the minute on all sides. Nick and Hank, the guns, ganging up on Juliette when she came in before asking for help, Nick forcing her to tell the gang she was a hexenbiest. And I honestly believe that it went so horribly so quickly because of one specific reason. Hexenbiest. If it was anything BUT a hexenbiest, i think they would have been easier on and more accepting of Juliette. I think that their fears and anxieties and past history with Hexenbiests (ADALIND LOL) made it all worse. Tensions and feelings were high and all over the place and NO ONE stood up and said: Hold on a minute. Let's breathe. Let's calm down and think this through. Their preconceived notions and fears overrode their sanity!
(11-23-2015, 05:32 PM)irukandji Wrote: I have to say when Rosalee came to visit her in jail, I didn't for a moment believe that Juliette 'liked' what she had become. She was lying to herself as well as Rosalee. Nick was repulsed by her, and Monroe and Rosalee completely wigged at her appearance, what was left for her?
So these three people who I look at as being closest to her, told her in so many ways that they did not approve of her. Not one, not one of them ever bothered to ask her how she felt, what could they do to help, or even just be with her.
They took it upon themselves that she needed to be 'cured'. Truth be told, maybe if they'd have helped her, not tried to fix her, they would have had a powerful ally on their side instead of a dead hexenbiest.
I'm not justifying Juliette's actions, she was wrong. But she was pushed over the edge by the people she loved best.
I think she was fighting herself about the power and was pushing them all away but yes, Juliette did not get the welcoming reception that she gave to them ALL. They did not make as much effort to help or understand as they should have, since she was one of them. But again this is due to their shock, guilt and other feelings, which i think Juliette took part in as well. She did not like what she was in the beginning and did not tell the Scoobies, because she like them, was repulsed. No one handled that well.
(11-24-2015, 05:31 AM)TieDyeJackson Wrote: I've said this before but I think that while the road to their understanding is littered with bad memories, hurt feelings and deep regrets I think when Nick and Adalind find that final piece of common ground they will click and they will be simpatico. They are both thoroughly entrenched in the Wessen world albeit on opposing sides but Kelly is too much of a treasure trove to just have be a Grimm or be a Hexenbeast. He is going to be a special case and I do believe we are going to see it very soon. Nick and Adalind will be on the same page and will form a very strong relationship and a family unit and if the writers are telling us anything, it will be at a very fast pace.
That being said , even if they are good with each other we all know in these situations the ficitional world will conspire against them to pull them apart. This is one of the main reasons I can see Bitsie coming back for an extended guest spot. Nothing spells trouble like an ex and with the history involved I think it is going to be a doozy.
Nick and Adalind will be together and will be great but there are gonna be a heck of a lot of bumps down that road to happiness.
That's all sounds good to me!