06-18-2017, 05:38 PM
Tomorrow-day 19-. Now its cellular.
06-18-2017, 05:38 PM
Tomorrow-day 19-. Now its cellular.
06-19-2017, 05:55 AM
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Juliette_Silverton
It seems to me that at the beginning it was but now it is not mentioned- Nick mentions it in ""Lonelyhearts" What are you thinking? Oh, I'm just wondering why certain people are attracted to each other. It's all about chemistry. Oh, well that explains Dale Armstead. Guy who stole your... Guy... your first love. That wasn't love. Well, it certainly wasn't looks or intelligence. You're one to talk! I met your first girlfriend. Okay, that was not chemistry. That was stupidity. Well, how do you know you're not being stupid by being with me? I don't. I just... I think there's a lot more to it than that. You know, in biology, like systems tend to integrate. That's so romantic. How about we get the shopping done and go home and integrate? Give me the list and get the car started. Read more at: http://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/v...74&t=14613
06-19-2017, 07:28 AM
(06-18-2017, 05:02 PM)New Guy Wrote:(06-18-2017, 03:16 PM)dicappatore Wrote:Agree. It is sad.(06-18-2017, 03:03 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hello Hell, That doesn't mean what we as a society were doing before was working. More divorces today just tells me that they were plenty of unhappy marriages but they felt forced to stay together. Juliette saying no to marriage doesn't mean there is no love. That just means it wasn't the right time. Juliette turning Nick's proposal down had as much to do with him as it did with her. He was was essentially lying to her face every day. Their relationship was doomed but that doesn't erase the love that was there. Living together and being faithful for years is a huge commitment. This doesn't excuse anything Juliette did in season 4. The "Hexenbiest made me do it' defense is a bunch of a crap and I thought the same thing when Adalind said it but their relationship prior to that was still meaningful. That just made the betrayal that much more difficult to watch. (06-19-2017, 07:28 AM)Hell Rell Wrote:Hello Hell,(06-18-2017, 05:02 PM)New Guy Wrote:(06-18-2017, 03:16 PM)dicappatore Wrote:Agree. It is sad.(06-18-2017, 03:03 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hello Hell, You made several claims and I will rebut a few: Quote:That doesn't mean what we as a society were doing before was working. More divorces today just tells me that they were plenty of unhappy marriages but they felt forced to stay together.The increased divorce rate could reflect a lack of commitment. If a couple takes marriage vows till death they do part, then divorce is similar legally to death. IMO, being unhappy is a pathetic excuse to divorce. "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. - Abraham Lincoln" Quote:He was was essentially lying to her face every day.Nick wanted to protect her and thought she would not handle revelation of Wesen. He was correct. When he "came clean" she flipped out, thought he needed help and broke down in tears. Quote:Living together and being faithful for years is a huge commitment.I agree, Nick was committed. He loved her, bought a ring and proposed. She feigned love traded sexual gratification for free rent and to parade him around as her stud-muffin. A committed person does not betray your mother, burn your trailer and centuries old family heirlooms. A committed person does not walk out on you and fornicate your boss. She does not fornicate a criminal in your bed and listen while he brutally murders and decapitates your mother. Quote:This doesn't excuse anything Juliette did in season 4. The "Hexenbiest made me do it' defense is a bunch of a crap and I thought the same thing when Adalind said it but their relationship prior to that was still meaningful. That just made the betrayal that much more difficult to watch.I agree the "Hexenbiest made me do it' defense is a bunch of a crap. She did them as Juliette, regardless of the hexen, so those actions prove she had no love, no commitment, no morals and no ethics. Best! N G
06-19-2017, 08:16 AM
Because before it was to live a "hell" with the husband/wife.
There was no choice.
06-19-2017, 08:37 AM
We understand it! You can not stand Juliette. We can not stand Adalind - She's the one who had her hand everywhere-without her nothing would have happened. I also blame Juliette, but I blame Adalind more. As simple as that!
(06-19-2017, 08:13 AM)New Guy Wrote: Hello Hell, Then how about we replace unhappy with unhealthy? I find people easily assume people have a healthy marriage from the distance when the reality can be that there's very little about it that's healthy. I'd rather see them can get a divorce and improve themselves separately than be miserable together. I wouldn't think think any less of them for doing so. My parents have been married for 35 years so I definitely see the merits in it. I just don't think marriage is the be all/end all and is the only type of commitment worth having. I think couples who are faithful and support each other while they're together, marriage or not, shows their commitment. In Nick and Juliette's case, things went off the rails once Juliette became a Hexenbiest. Things would've played out largely the same had they been married at the time. That ring wouldn't have saved their relationship. Juliette disappearing might've been a bigger deal but that should've been the case anyway.
06-19-2017, 10:24 AM
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(06-19-2017, 08:37 AM)Loona Wrote: We understand it! You can not stand Juliette. We can not stand Adalind - She's the one who had her hand everywhere-without her nothing would have happened. I also blame Juliette, but I blame Adalind more. As simple as that! Loona, I agree, both Hex have blame. What they did was not a question of blame. Adalind did initiate the series of events. In return she lost her mom, her Hex and Her daughter. If was a result for all her doing. Juliette became a Hex which she claims in more than one occasion she loved it. It is the intensity of the reaction to Nick that’s is the key. What Juliette did in return to Nick, whether you blame him 100% or no blame it all for her Hex, is no where close. Nick was her partner in life, married or not, there was a commitment to each other. What was Nick to Adalind. just another Grimm. He never told Adalind it was his turn to understand her. He did say it to Juliette. (06-19-2017, 05:55 AM)brandon Wrote: http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Juliette_Silverton Yes brandon I reviewd S1, E4. and according to Juliette's own words, "That wasn't love". reinforces my theory that her past was at best a floosy, a trollop, a fast woman. Add to her type of woman, what her college friend added to peek in more of her past life before Dale Armstead, and Nick. This is my whole purpose of this thread Juliette was a woman with morals a guy would gladly date, use her up, band the crap out of her and dump her, when a better slut came along. Not a woman to bring home to mother. Yet Nick let her move in with him, buy her a ring and propose. Basically, if Juliette was a guy she would be the same guy that would date her described in the sentences above. A player, stud, A PIG.
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!
06-19-2017, 11:54 AM
Watch the episode again,Dicappatore.
According to memory is Nick who says:" it was not love, it was stupid". Nick refers to your previous relationship. It was Juliette broke up with the couple- she is to blame, not Adalind-. Juliette moved away from Nick fearing him because he was a "GRIMM". And then Nick...
06-19-2017, 12:17 PM
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(06-19-2017, 11:54 AM)brandon Wrote: Watch the episode again,Dicappatore. Well lets see. here is the dialogue: Juliette; What are you thinking? Nick; I'm just wondering why certain people are attracted to each other? Juliette; It's all about chemistry. Nick; Oh! Well, that explains Dale Armistead. The guy who stole your Guy, your first love. Juliette; That wasn't love. Nick; Well, it certainly wasn't looks or intelligence. Juliette; You're one to talk. I met your first girlfriend. Nick; Okay, that was not chemistry, that was stupidity. Juliette; Well, how do you know you're not being stupid by being with me? Nick; I don't. I just I think that there's a lot more to it than that. Juliette; You know, in biology, like systems tend to integrate. Nick; That's so romantic. Juliette; How about we get the shopping done and go home and integrate? Nick; Give me the list and get the car started. It is clear to me that Juliette comment "that wasn't love" referes to her relationship to Dale. Nick refers to his girlfriend "Okay, that was not chemistry, that was stupidity". I interpret it as Juliette using Dale to meet her sexual needs until Nick came along with a house and better looks. Nick making a mistake in compatibility dating his old girlfriend until Juliette came along..
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!
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