08-22-2017, 06:57 PM
We don't know what Renard might have known about Nick. It appeared that Nick's mom was known as a Grinnm, and Renard did seem to have a plan in place for Nick as early as the pilot.
08-22-2017, 06:57 PM
We don't know what Renard might have known about Nick. It appeared that Nick's mom was known as a Grinnm, and Renard did seem to have a plan in place for Nick as early as the pilot.
08-23-2017, 07:23 AM
Nick's mother got a rumor that one "GRIMM" would have the coins.
Where did that rumor come from? Kimura not know. Farley , yes. (08-22-2017, 07:58 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: I doubt he knew Nick was a Grimm/potential Grimms before aunt Marie came to town. Renard was trying to get the key from her because of the people he sent after her including Adalind.If I was going to guess I would go this way. Renard sent the reaper after Marie to get the key, the reaper followed her to Portland. Now when Nick kills the reaper now Renard has the connection. His question now has Nick always been a Grimm or not but when Adalind sees Nick as a Grimm. Renard now knows for sure, he may not know that for Nick it is a new thing. Renard wanted the key to get back into the royal family or as a lever to get something from them. That is what Adalind mother means when she said you knew what that meant to us. (08-22-2017, 06:57 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: We don't know what Renard might have known about Nick. It appeared that Nick's mom was known as a Grinnm, and Renard did seem to have a plan in place for Nick as early as the pilot.I think Renard thought Nick's mom was dead but as Monroe said Aunt Marie was known in the wesen world.
08-23-2017, 11:59 AM
He could have known about the relationship between Marie and Nick through another police.
Nick could have said to a question from his captain,who grew up with his aunt Marie. Was the chief of them so he would be sure to know what good men he had in his precinct
08-23-2017, 12:20 PM
(08-23-2017, 11:59 AM)brandon Wrote: He could have known about the relationship between Marie and Nick through another police. I’m not too sure, but I think Renard had no clue that Nick was a Grimm. Nick only found out he was a Grimm during the pilot. If he did know he was related to both his dead mom Kelly and his aunt Marie, he might have known he had the potential to be one. He found out he was one, I think, from Adalind when she was sent to kill her.
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08-23-2017, 01:56 PM
If Monroe, who was not part of any wesen "inner circle," had heard of Aunt Marie, it's likely that both of the Kessler sisters were known to a lot of wesen and to the royals. So even if they had no expectation that Nick would become a Grimm, the possibility that he might be a lead to the coins of Zakynthos or one of the keys could still have been enough to keep him a person of interest to the royals. And anything the royals were interested in, Renard would have been interested in.
08-24-2017, 05:17 AM
(08-23-2017, 01:56 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: If Monroe, who was not part of any wesen "inner circle," had heard of Aunt Marie, it's likely that both of the Kessler sisters were known to a lot of wesen and to the royals. So even if they had no expectation that Nick would become a Grimm, the possibility that he might be a lead to the coins of Zakynthos or one of the keys could still have been enough to keep him a person of interest to the royals. And anything the royals were interested in, Renard would have been interested in.Hi Face, Good post. IMO, your logic is sound. N G
08-24-2017, 08:24 AM
(08-24-2017, 05:17 AM)New Guy Wrote:(08-23-2017, 01:56 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: If Monroe, who was not part of any wesen "inner circle," had heard of Aunt Marie, it's likely that both of the Kessler sisters were known to a lot of wesen and to the royals. So even if they had no expectation that Nick would become a Grimm, the possibility that he might be a lead to the coins of Zakynthos or one of the keys could still have been enough to keep him a person of interest to the royals. And anything the royals were interested in, Renard would have been interested in.Hi Face, Just a note. His aunt was known to Monroe and the rest of the Wesen world as a “Kessler”. His mon was also listed in the Grimm Book that was part of the collection they got from Monroe’s Uncle. Both were listed under their maiden family name “Kessler”. Nick’s surname was from his father, Burkhardt. The “Burkhardt” surname was not listed in the book of Grimm lineage. Until Nick told Monroe, Aunt Marie Kessler was his aunt, no one made the connection. If his mom Kelly was also known to the Wesen community as a Grimm, way back when she was still thought to be dead, it was probably as a Kessler too. Again, no connection to Nick as a Burkhardt until the cat was out of the bag. I think this is why Renard did not know that Nick was a possible Grimm until he came out of the closet in the pilot.
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08-24-2017, 08:43 AM
The people who ambushed and killed Nick's father and thought they had killed Nick's mother obviously knew Kelly's name was Burkhardt.
08-24-2017, 10:42 AM
Hi Forum,
This thread "The House" has taken a turn and seems to be discussing when and how Renard would know Nick was a Grimm. I looked up Marie and Kelly on: http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Marie_Kessler and http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Kelly_Burkhardt When PPD hired Nick they likely did background check that would have easily identified his mother and aunt. Renard had a major interest in the keys as did the Royals and Soledad Marquesa (killer of Reed Burkhardt). With that information, Renard only needed to check Nick's eyes to know if he was a Grimm. Quote:From Season 2, Episode 1, "Bad Teeth"Was Kelly referring to Renard? If the "someone" was Renard when did he confirm (see the "eyes") Nick was a Grimm? Renard's Wikia; http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Sean_Renard says Quote:Before learning about Nick being a Grimm, he had Adalind Schade attempt to kill Nick's aunt, Marie Kessler, but he lost Adalind's trust when Nick killed the Hexenbiest within her.If the Wikias are correct, Renard did not know Nick was a Grimm until as late as 1.17, "Love Sick." If so, then as a cop, he does not seem too bright. N G |
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