(10-12-2017, 08:03 PM)silver Wrote:(10-11-2017, 11:12 PM)rpmaluki Wrote:(10-11-2017, 09:53 PM)silver Wrote:That is what Nick was doing, we viewers assume that's all he's trying to do although he had plenty other ways to get his blood into her system. Nick forced a kiss on her. With Adalind, it's not so simple. They were just fighting and he overpowered her. In that moment a grimm had overpowered her and pinned her to the ground and she was fearful of what he was about to do, you see it on her face. We justify Nick because he was saving a life but he could have found another way. It's easy to say Adalind had it coming for what she had done but then again Sean put her up to it, she wasn't personally after Nick or his friends but that besides the point because it's not her story. Her part in this is inconsequential to some people but it isn't to Adalind. She was afraid of a Grimm. He did force himself on her to take away her powers. Later when she is pushed to do to him what he did to her, with as much justification that's relevant to her, she's a villain because it's Adalind.(10-11-2017, 09:34 PM)wesen Wrote: Talk of Adalind being a rapist bothered me as well, because those same posters seem to ignore Nick's own sexual assault of Adalind or JuliEve's own rape of Rachel when she pretended to be Renard. Oh wait, some made excuses for her because she had no choice but to do it, even though rape is about lack of consent and Rachel would not have consented sleeping with Eve.
I'm just asking, but Nick's assault of Adalind?
Do you mean when she did put Hank's life in danger with the cookies?
If so, he was just trying to get her to bite him to take her hex powers away. I don't know if that's what you meant but I don't know of any other bit where it could be said Nick sexually assaulted Adalind.
Sleeping is a whole lot different than having sex. Their conversation clearly indicated he couldn't 'get it up' in a manner of speaking. I have no idea how anybody could construe that as them having sex. It was play-acting to ferret out important information.
Not everything that happened with these characters was in a vacuum. They are all equally villains and victims by their own actions. We as fans are the ones that choose to box them into one thing and disregard everything else because of preference.
I agree with the fact that they are all villains/victims. It's an adult show - geared towards adults and they all want to win and get what they want or feel is the right thing. Some of the characters are flying by the seat of their pants and doing stuff that is just a means to an end, and Nick did have a whole lot of very effective tactics to use. HE knew he wasn't trying to push himself onto her in any sexual way whatsoever, and Adalind was always pulling something underhanded and deadly. She brought that on herself - the fight with Nick.
But I think there is an element of sexuality to that kiss Nick gave Adalind. Nick had already pinned Adalind down at that time, she was under his control, there were a number of ways he could have gotten his blood into her. It's kinda telling that Nick's first instinct was to kiss her. Why a kiss? Well, we see in the pilot episode where Nick stares at Adalind, despite having just bought an engagement ring for Juliette, and Hank comments about him checking her out. We also see in the audition videos that G & K wrote Nick as being attracted to Adalind because he called her a beautiful girl whose face turned into a hag's. Now I happen to think that the writers knew what they were doing when the interactions between Nick and Adalind bordered on flirtatious, with the looks they gave each other, and their close body contact. If the audience could see it, I'm sure the director and G & K could see it too. As I've stated before, I believe that G & K were kinda pushing this chemistry these two characters had, or else why did they get Nick to kiss her? Even in season 2, again that sexual spark between them was hinted when Adalind flirted with Nick, when she suggestively told him that they could have had a lot of fun together. As for Nick being justified in taking her powers, it could also be argued that Adalind was justified in sleeping with Nick to take away his powers, because not only did Nick and his friends make her believe that the royals had her baby, the royals manipulated her into believing that the only way she could ever see Diana again was by doing what they wanted her to do.