05-26-2018, 10:49 AM
(05-26-2018, 09:00 AM)dicappatore Wrote: Robyn, you make some valid arguments and hard for me to disagree. Unfortunately, for these female characters, this show was not centered on them, instead it was centered on the Nick character. If some of these forum contributors want to see females in starting roles as heroes. Why try justifying by looking into this show? I say to them, look elsewhere, like Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Buffy, Nikita, Jessica Jones and many others.I agree the show centered around the Nick character. But all the supporting characters, male and female, took a backseat to the central character. And therein lies one of the more obvious dilemmas with a character-centric show for viewers like me. It’s not so much that I disliked the central character but, that who and what Nick was and what he did within time-restricted WoW episodes wasn’t sufficient to hold my interest week after week. And very early in S1 I found myself gravitating to the side stories that received less attention on the show but were better expounded because they weren’t limited to forty-two minute conclusions.
It is unbelievable to what some will go to what extent to make the TV show Grimm about Juliette. I am constantly reminded, me a DC fan, by my daughter, a Marvel fan, on how Marvel is dis-respecting women super heroes compared to the DC products we see on the movie screen and TV. That is her opinion.
I have my favorites for this show and I have my dislikes. I have posted on a few threads, my opinion on the Juliette character and my judgement of her promiscuous past. Many have disagreed with me, including you and some of the Nick's fans. I have no problems with our varied opinions. When I posted my justifications of my opinion of her, I used actual scenes with dialogues from the script. We might disagree on our interpretations of those scenes but I did not pull them out of my arse either.
My preference of characters and preferred story-delivery method doesn’t conclude that Grimm must have been a bad show because I didn’t like it, only that it wasn’t the type of show I personally like. Shortly after the show began I scanned episodes for those few minutes devoted to side stories of Renard, Adalind, the Royals and the Resistance, only watching Nick and his group when those side stories intersected with them.
But in S5 when the Royals and the Resistance went missing without explanation and Renard and Adalind were shadows of their former selves, the Wesen Uprising story wasn't a sufficient draw because it played out like a multipart season finale instead of a story arc spanning throughout the season and slowly culminating to a climatic impact on the conclusion. If anything, the BC/HW storyline unnecessarily disrupted the WoW format.
(05-26-2018, 09:00 AM)dicappatore Wrote: …Case in point, look at this thread. "Nick's obsession-demoting Juliette to normal human".I generally felt the show reflected a low regard for humans in the Grimm/Wesen setting. By the end of the show, Hank was the only remaining human in the group. And given the option for more seasons, it’s not likely he would have remained one.
(05-26-2018, 09:00 AM)dicappatore Wrote: …She read this as I typed it and gave me an NCIS back of the head slap.She should probably exercise that option more often. *grin*
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke