04-04-2017, 12:21 PM
(04-04-2017, 12:06 PM)Hexenadler Wrote:(04-04-2017, 11:27 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: The penance Hadrian's wall forces on her is as much about the wiping away of her identity as it is the work she does for them after. She was, in fact, imprisoned and tortured. There's no doubt she suffered greatly through that process. But once Eve is Eve, she is in every sense, a different person. This makes any punishment handed out, of negligible impact. After her humanity begins to return, Eve lives in a nebulous duality of both women. Where once she was unmoved, now she speaks to her inability to forgive Juliette. She knows full well that she's speaking about herself, but the programming still remains in part, so that she can compartmentalize and function. The fight for her is about this very thing. Her purpose is in the struggle. It's because of the Juliette side that she is driven this way. She can't forgive so she must soldier on. The world has moved on and the stories given to those families will be what they carry forward. The men who pulled the triggers are dead, and there is little else that Eve could give to them, that would help it make sense. I suppose she could throw herself, prostrate at their feet and beg for forgiveness, but in the end that would be more about her than them. She could never tell them the whole story. The Wesen live outside of normal society. People could never accept it, so in most ways it must remain apart. There is so much that can't be explained to a lay person, that you have to approach everything from a different perspective. You can't ascribe the same rule of law we live under, to every fantasy world we witness, because they don't correlate. Her experience in becoming dark Juliette is removed from any human perspective known to us. What legal precedence do you use to determine her guilt in a court of law? How can she be given a fair trial when the salient points of her own defense, can't be spoken aloud? They live in a world that's split in two, and there are areas where they can't come together.
I'm sorry, but that's all pure sophistry to excuse the inexcusable. Juliette's heart never stopped beating. Her brain never stopped functioning. There was nothing even remotely supernatural involved with her "rebirth." She's the same woman.
If we were talking about Fred and Illyria from "Angel," you might have a point. But we're not, so you don't. This isn't a case of a demon inhabiting someone else's body. Any argument to rationalize Eve as a completely different woman from a literal perspective is fundamentally flawed.
Actually, it literally is the case of a demon inhabiting her body. That's what a Hexenbeist is. The Eve reconditioning was about burying said demon. To do that, they had to break her down until Juliette was gone. At that point she was basically a machine. It's all subconscious, and with massive amounts of psychotherapy, they may have been able to unearth Juliette, but considering what she was capable of, the danger there would have been massive. Eve was an intelligent weapon at that point. Nothing more. It took the stick's cosmic power to punch holes in her conditioning. And it's never broken down fully.