(07-19-2022, 10:50 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Would it bother to lie to them if it thinks they're barely capable of understanding what they're told?
I would really like to meet the adult who has truthfully answered every question their child has asked and lied because their child would have no understanding of the answer.. For that matter, it's been shown in tests that little kids can lie.
We know Kirk has lied. Spock has also lied. These are the primitives you're talking about. If the primitives can lie and are good at it, a superior being can lie as well.
(07-19-2022, 10:50 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: The Guardian doesn't have to lie to mess with the primitives. All it has to do is only answer the questions it's asked and not offer any unsolicited help.
It messed with the primitives when it answered Kirk's question. It continued to mess with the primitives when it insulted Spock's intelligence. If it didn't want to mess with the primitives it would have remained silent.
If it felt none of these people could understand it, I don't know why then it was flashing earth history films at them. That too, is "messing with the primitives".
And if you want to talk about lies, the Guardian states it's been waiting for a question since before the human race was born and before our sun burned hot in space. The sun is going on 5 billion years old. Spock's tricorder registered it at about a million years old. If it's been around longer than our solar system waiting for someone to stop by and ask it a question, I don't see how it can know earth's history. According to the log at the beginning, its time waves reach out a million miles. Nothing is said that they stretch all the way to the earth.
The entity talks in riddles and poetic aging. Is it really incapable of telling an untruth?
You're preaching to the choir here when you state the Guardian wasn't asked the right questions. I stated earlier that Kirk shows a complete lack of curiosity toward the Guardian. His patience is something to behold. According to his statement to Cochrane, in Metamorphosis, he had a very low tolerance where the safety of his people are concerned.
Well, none of them know what the cordrazine will do to Dr. McCoy. He's Kirk's buddy, very ill, and extremely valuable to the Enterprise. It seems to me that, and gaining information about how this giant rock can help them warrants grave concern for his people, don't you? Yet he doesn't show it. He doesn't ask the right questions, which would generally be a queue for Spock to step in and ask the right questions, which HE doesn't.
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