01-10-2017, 10:01 AM
(01-10-2017, 07:29 AM)Robyn Wrote:Thanks The one with him arresting the man who son was killed, wouldn't the fact he didn't do it himself but had others doing it to test his daughter added to the debate? Now we are talking a tv series not real life but who hasn't said if x was to happen to a family member we might do y, now the question would be would we?(01-10-2017, 06:57 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Need a little clearer view on what "crisis of conscious" means to you? So we can debate from the same point.A decision or act Nick believes is necessary because of circumstances, but the decision/act going against his moral fiber gives him pause. He would grapple with the decision if time allowed. If not, he would struggle after the fact, trying to reconcile his actions with the man he believes he is/wants to be.
Example:
Nick never questioned his right to arrest the man who avenged his son’s murder. There wasn’t a crisis of conscious or any guilt that Nick struggled with. At no time did he consider that killing Kenneth for revenge compromised his ethical duties as a police officer. But then neither did Hank.
Nick committed murder when he killed Kenneth. Hank and Wu were accessories to murder. Why do their reasons for doing it matter, if the same consideration wasn’t given to the man in Maiden Quest? Other than it’s okay as long as it’s Nick or his people committing criminal or immoral acts?
Kenneth you got a point on the police duty, now I'll change to Grimm storyline. Kenneth was royal one did he have some Diplomatic status, two Kenneth did have his hands free and did threw the first punch once that happen would Nick be in self defense? So post that Nick cheated with the knife that is a whole other debate but I'll answer only for myself Kenneth knew that was a fight to the death in those fights you use whatever you can get your hands on. On this one you may have to just take that on trust unless you have lived it.
For those on the forum who want law and order to rule you are correct, for those on the forum who see it as only fantasy of Grimm's life. So if you are in the first group this debate will be agree to disagree. Myself only Nick is a Grimm so I judge him as a Grimm now you can and be correct from your view then they shouldn't have made him a police officer, my view would be they made him a police officer so he could work wesen crimes, even Renard said in one way or another all crime in Portland is wesen connected. Now he never said why that is a point I've alway thought about. I always wondered what he was his point???
If you see it as a fantasy to get out of real life for a time than you have someone like me who doesn't look at what should have happen only what did happen.
Thanks this was fun to think about. JS