10-08-2017, 05:59 AM
(10-07-2017, 07:23 PM)irukandji Wrote:Should we look at what Nick did to help Trubel, she is a Grimm so that isn't going to change. She knew how to drive she was driving when she and Josh left Portland. She also knew how to ride a motorcycle so that's not something Nick needed to teacher her.(10-07-2017, 10:23 AM)eric Wrote: Okay, now first, I have been called a lot of things. My family and friends have called me thoughtless, senseless, worthless, clueless, and witless, but never brainless. Nick and Juliette took in a homeless, young, cute woman(my wife would never had agreed to that), with a long history of mental hospital and jailhouse stays. They gave her a cot and three hots, Juliette forced her to go shopping(probably for new clothes), and everyone listened to her life story story without judgement, something no one else had ever done before. It would take some time to unlearn her prior life style and habits-more than 1 week for sure. The books helped her learn about the different kinds of wessen and how to react to them. It took me longer than 3 weeks to learn how to drive. If someone had thrown me the keys and said have fun, I would not be typing today. Get a job(probably minimum wage) without a work history and getting a steady place to stay right away is a big order. Being a Grimm IS a dangerous thing, she had to learn both the good and bad sides.
eric, first let me apologize profusely. I was not calling you brainless. That was meant for the poster who likes to bluff and bluster his way into posts as the usual vying for attention without meanfully contributing to the debate. That *is not* you.
eric, you talked about learning to drive and how it couldn't be done in a day. Absolutely, positively correct. But......when you learned how to drive and were going all over in your car, how did that make you feel? I can tell you from the perspective of a person who took the bus to school and work for a total of 5 years, once I learned to drive, there was nothing like it for me. Such a normal, even mundane task. And yet, I love my car. I love being able to drive my car.
I think the grimm diaries are cool, but are those really keen and objective insights into wesen? Grimms are not objective so it seems to me any entries they make into a diary are going to be just as biased. So Nick tells Trubel about who she is, shows her some biased books, even lets her take one to her room with her.
But he never shows her how to drive a car in case she needs to make a hasty getaway?
Nick never told her she didn't have choices and he never told her she did so that is kind of a wash he followed Trubel's lead. He showed her how to be a Grimm, giving her her best chance to live. The Grimm books shows a Grimm what is out there and how to fight it, I don't see a bias in the books just knowledge of Grimm's for Grimm's that was learned the hard way.
Now the books never showed good wesen but why would they you don't have to fight good wesen.
Look a Trubel when she ripped of the shoes she had on sunglasses so the wesen didn't know she was a Grimm she just wanted the shoes, had the girl knew that Trubel was a Grimm she may have run away. Trubel saw a wesen but didn't know what she saw and then was attacked being a Grimm help her in the fight so just didn't know that was why she won so many of those fights.
Nick comes along and tells her why. Then she goes to far and takes on two wesen to save the girls and then admits she maked a mistake and ask Nick to teach her. She asked at this point she knows the score and she wants to be trained.
So now we get to what Juliette or Nick should have done, she has asked to be trained as a Grimm. Now should have Juliette or Nick tried to talk her out of it? @irukandji when someone makes a choice (Trubel did make a choice) she it a young woman with as we have seen already with mind of her own, I see accepting this choice and doing what is need to help her with that choice.