(01-05-2016, 02:00 PM)Sable677 Wrote: I think that it will probably be either Adalind getting her powers back or something with Kelly (Kelly getting powers or being in danger). They seem to be building Nick and Adalind slowly despite their crazy circumstances and ending the Juliette question allows the focus to be on Nick and Adalind.
I always thought the writer would give Kelly powers equal to Diana, but I didn't think about that causing a problem for Nick and Adalind now I will have to rethink that idea. Adalind getting returning to a hexen will be a problem, question should Rosalee find a way to end them will Nick want those powers gone now with problems in Portland? If not how does a Grimm and hexen cope?
(01-05-2016, 02:00 PM)Sable677 Wrote: I think that it will probably be either Adalind getting her powers back or something with Kelly (Kelly getting powers or being in danger). They seem to be building Nick and Adalind slowly despite their crazy circumstances and ending the Juliette question allows the focus to be on Nick and Adalind.
I always thought the writer would give Kelly powers equal to Diana, but I didn't think about that causing a problem for Nick and Adalind now I will have to rethink that idea. Adalind getting returning to a hexen will be a problem, question should Rosalee find a way to end them will Nick want those powers gone now with problems in Portland? If not how does a Grimm and hexen cope?
I think that the point of everything that happened with Juliette is that Nick won't react the same way. Adalind has the experience of having powers as well as being without them now so I don't think that she will react the same way that she had in the past too. Last time she didn't have powers it was all new to her and she was defined by those powers (Catherine and Sean had no use for her without them) so she was desperate to get them back at all costs. Diana and now Kelly has changed that for her.
The comments are getting to hung up on the hexenbiest issue being their powers. When Adalind lost her powers, nothing changed about Adalind. What made Adalind change was she had no where else to turn for help. Kenneth set her up to be killed by Juliette. What changed about Juliette is, she now has the ability to express her anger. Before the transformation retaliation was a possibility for any acts of vengeance, now it is not. If someone in a bar pushes you, most people would defuse the situation, especially if the person is twice their size. If you know you can take on anyone in the bar. Why would you back down. If she had of had powers when she went after Alicia's husband he would be dead.
Nick did not reject Juliette because she was a hexenbiest. He could not bear the guilt of it being his fault she is a hexenbiest. Even though Juliette started to accept being a hexenbiest and no longer blamed them. Nick still have the guilt that her acceptance is a forced position instead of her choice. If Elizabeth had said a side effect might be Juliette becoming a hexenbiest and they did it any way. Nick would have had a different response. He would not have all the guilt he has now. Remember Elizabeth said the side effects of taking the potion or not taking the potion would effect Nick.
We could make a wild theory, Elizabeth deliberately changed the potion to turn Juliette. Maybe she figured as a hexenbiest Juliette would be able to get her grand daughter. Which is what happened. When Meisner said Diana is with friends, he could have been referring to Elizabeth. It is not inconceivable that Diana is with Elizabeth and Viktor. Elizabeth has stated on previous occasions she would go back to Vienna. Even Sean said he would go back on his own terms.
I think that Elizabeth did not know what would be the side effect, it apparently only knew who did the spell.
Nick was feeling guilty for what happened, but she never told him he was wrong.
you seriously think not blame?I no.la bar fight, in the store.
the trailer fire.Kelly's death and neighbors.
and it is not for Ken to tread.
I was full of hatred and adding more fire power was.the he had accepted, I fail to tell him how he could use his power.
I not think it's that Adalind again have his powers or his work.
Juliette was independent and strong.
although it is terrible to see that who is considered strong hatred Choose
(01-06-2016, 04:15 AM)brandon Wrote: I think that Elizabeth did not know what would be the side effect, it apparently only knew who did the spell.
Nick was feeling guilty for what happened, but she never told him he was wrong.
you seriously think not blame?I no.la bar fight, in the store.
the trailer fire.Kelly's death and neighbors.
and it is not for Ken to tread.
I was full of hatred and adding more fire power was.the he had accepted, I fail to tell him how he could use his power.
I not think it's that Adalind again have his powers or his work.
Juliette was independent and strong.
although it is terrible to see that who is considered strong hatred Choose
I also don't think Elizabeth knew the side effects. Using the hat she didn't know anything about at the time was the cause. Nick will try and get Juliette back but Adalind will be in fear with Eve out there. I don't see this as a problem for Nick and Adalind I see it as the help to end the problem.
(01-05-2016, 05:08 PM)syscrash Wrote: The comments are getting to hung up on the hexenbiest issue being their powers. When Adalind lost her powers, nothing changed about Adalind. What made Adalind change was she had no where else to turn for help. Kenneth set her up to be killed by Juliette. What changed about Juliette is, she now has the ability to express her anger. Before the transformation retaliation was a possibility for any acts of vengeance, now it is not. If someone in a bar pushes you, most people would defuse the situation, especially if the person is twice their size. If you know you can take on anyone in the bar. Why would you back down. If she had of had powers when she went after Alicia's husband he would be dead.
Nick did not reject Juliette because she was a hexenbiest. He could not bear the guilt of it being his fault she is a hexenbiest. Even though Juliette started to accept being a hexenbiest and no longer blamed them. Nick still have the guilt that her acceptance is a forced position instead of her choice. If Elizabeth had said a side effect might be Juliette becoming a hexenbiest and they did it any way. Nick would have had a different response. He would not have all the guilt he has now. Remember Elizabeth said the side effects of taking the potion or not taking the potion would effect Nick.
We could make a wild theory, Elizabeth deliberately changed the potion to turn Juliette. Maybe she figured as a hexenbiest Juliette would be able to get her grand daughter. Which is what happened. When Meisner said Diana is with friends, he could have been referring to Elizabeth. It is not inconceivable that Diana is with Elizabeth and Viktor. Elizabeth has stated on previous occasions she would go back to Vienna. Even Sean said he would go back on his own terms.
Wow! I didn't even consider that Elizabeth would have Diana. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. I didn't even see that.
01-06-2016, 09:49 AM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2016, 09:49 AM by jsgrimm45.)
(01-06-2016, 09:29 AM)crossbar Wrote:
(01-05-2016, 05:08 PM)syscrash Wrote: The comments are getting to hung up on the hexenbiest issue being their powers. When Adalind lost her powers, nothing changed about Adalind. What made Adalind change was she had no where else to turn for help. Kenneth set her up to be killed by Juliette. What changed about Juliette is, she now has the ability to express her anger. Before the transformation retaliation was a possibility for any acts of vengeance, now it is not. If someone in a bar pushes you, most people would defuse the situation, especially if the person is twice their size. If you know you can take on anyone in the bar. Why would you back down. If she had of had powers when she went after Alicia's husband he would be dead.
Nick did not reject Juliette because she was a hexenbiest. He could not bear the guilt of it being his fault she is a hexenbiest. Even though Juliette started to accept being a hexenbiest and no longer blamed them. Nick still have the guilt that her acceptance is a forced position instead of her choice. If Elizabeth had said a side effect might be Juliette becoming a hexenbiest and they did it any way. Nick would have had a different response. He would not have all the guilt he has now. Remember Elizabeth said the side effects of taking the potion or not taking the potion would effect Nick.
We could make a wild theory, Elizabeth deliberately changed the potion to turn Juliette. Maybe she figured as a hexenbiest Juliette would be able to get her grand daughter. Which is what happened. When Meisner said Diana is with friends, he could have been referring to Elizabeth. It is not inconceivable that Diana is with Elizabeth and Viktor. Elizabeth has stated on previous occasions she would go back to Vienna. Even Sean said he would go back on his own terms.
Wow! I didn't even consider that Elizabeth would have Diana. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. I didn't even see that.
Could work if Elizabeth is with HW. Good idea. I will never believe Elizabeth knew this would happen to Juliette. If Elizabeth does have LBB then Sean will find out this would cause problems with Nick and Adalind as now Adalind is in the crossfire between Elizabeth/Sean and how would Nick react? So problems.
(01-05-2016, 05:08 PM)syscrash Wrote: The comments are getting to hung up on the hexenbiest issue being their powers. When Adalind lost her powers, nothing changed about Adalind. What made Adalind change was she had no where else to turn for help. Kenneth set her up to be killed by Juliette. What changed about Juliette is, she now has the ability to express her anger. Before the transformation retaliation was a possibility for any acts of vengeance, now it is not. If someone in a bar pushes you, most people would defuse the situation, especially if the person is twice their size. If you know you can take on anyone in the bar. Why would you back down. If she had of had powers when she went after Alicia's husband he would be dead.
Nick did not reject Juliette because she was a hexenbiest. He could not bear the guilt of it being his fault she is a hexenbiest. Even though Juliette started to accept being a hexenbiest and no longer blamed them. Nick still have the guilt that her acceptance is a forced position instead of her choice. If Elizabeth had said a side effect might be Juliette becoming a hexenbiest and they did it any way. Nick would have had a different response. He would not have all the guilt he has now. Remember Elizabeth said the side effects of taking the potion or not taking the potion would effect Nick.
We could make a wild theory, Elizabeth deliberately changed the potion to turn Juliette. Maybe she figured as a hexenbiest Juliette would be able to get her grand daughter. Which is what happened. When Meisner said Diana is with friends, he could have been referring to Elizabeth. It is not inconceivable that Diana is with Elizabeth and Viktor. Elizabeth has stated on previous occasions she would go back to Vienna. Even Sean said he would go back on his own terms.
Wow! I didn't even consider that Elizabeth would have Diana. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. I didn't even see that.
Could work if Elizabeth is with HW. Good idea. I will never believe Elizabeth knew this would happen to Juliette. If Elizabeth does have LBB then Sean will find out this would cause problems with Nick and Adalind as now Adalind is in the crossfire between Elizabeth/Sean and how would Nick react? So problems.
I don't know. I don't think that Elizabeth belongs to any group. She's been kind of on her own program. She has her own agenda, we just don't know what that is yet.
I still think that if Diana is with Elizabeth, she'll have an agenda that will put her granddaughter in danger and Adalind won't like it at all. Diana will return to her mother, so she and her brother Kelly will be raise in a normal childhood with their mother, Nick and possibly Sean.