(01-01-2019, 01:03 PM)N_grimm Wrote: Sure. This is a description of the betrayal…. Why do you ask for evidence? I’m describing the storyline.
I'm asking for evidence because as far as I know there was nothing in any storyline anywhere that indicated Juliette tricked Kelly into a deathtrap and then did nothing to stop her beheading. This is your statement. Don't try to imply that it's evidence.
The simple statement is that Juliette sent an email to Kelly telling her Nick was in danger. Kelly responded by stating she was on her way. Did Juliette betray Kelly? Sure she did.
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Of course, I am serious. You are the one taking about the betrayed of trust being no big deal. As I said: Juliette had access to the email only because her boyfriend trusted her. You can’t separate betraying Kelly and Nick because the first was only possible because of the second.
Well, let's go back to your statement because what you stated earlier has nothing to with what you posted above. This is what you stated:
**And why don't you give weight to the fact that Kelly is Nick's mother?**
Why would that deserve any weight? You're in essence stating that Nick was not his own person. Instead you're implying that Kelly guided his footsteps behind the scenes. Kelly left him with her sister and Nick didn't see her for decades. Now if you asked about Marie, I could say that she had some influence on his life, but even that is tenuous at best.
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Firstly, Kelly never worked for the royals…. The royals where the enemy of the Grimms. They had been in war with the Grimms for six hundred years.
She worked for Renard, who according to the series, was a royal.
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Secondly, Kelly never showed up in Nicks house to take a baby. Kelly brought the baby to Nick's house twice. First time with Adalind and the second time before she was killed. It was Renard who gave the baby to the royals, before Nick and co hijacked the car on the way to the airport.
It was Kelly who kidnapped the baby from Adalind. She talked Nick and the scoobies into it. If you want to add Renard to the mix, add him. I have no doubt, however, that anyone who disagreed with Kelly would have been killed for their opposition to her plan. You really don't think Kelly was going to let anyone prevent her from stealing Diana, do you?
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Thirdly. You ask why Kelly is different from the verrat? Well, the varrat was not the mother to Juliette’s boyfriend. They were not someone who put their trust in Juliette. They represented Nick’s enemy. They Royals wanted the keys to control the world. The Grimm’s wanted to protect the world. Kelly was a Grimm. That was……… surprise................. the premises for the series!
Well, here you go off again on another tangent. We were talking about this little gem of a statement you made earlier:
**You just assume that Kelly is evil and deserve to die to clean away the blood on Juliette’s hands and ignore that Nick lost his mother in the process.**
See, I don't assume that the verrat were evil. On the other side of the coin, I don't assume Kelly's evil either. I do, however, believe both were thugs, doing dirty jobs for money. The verrat no doubt have families just like Kelly did. No doubt some are even parents, just like Kelly. That doesn't exonerate any of them from being thugs. They both worked for the royals for pay. They both stole the same baby. There really is no difference between what the two of them do for pay.
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Do you mean when Kelly helped Adalind and Diana escape from..... the royals? Based on what we know, Renard or the Resistance. Why would the royals pay Kelly to lose Diana?
I never stated they did.
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