07-28-2016, 07:40 AM
(07-28-2016, 07:02 AM)irukandji Wrote:No, but then I am not a Greek or Roman from 800 BC. I enjoy reading the stories and do not judge them by 2016 standards. These things change with time and culture. The Crusades killed off a lot of Infadles and were considered heros and saints. Not so much in this time and place. Nick? Yes, from my point of view. Maybe not from others viewpoint.(07-28-2016, 06:54 AM)brandon Wrote: monroe never showed hunting humans,only mentions a relative-Marie in the hospital-who he was killed by "GRIMM".Monroe tells Nick that not hunted pigs-nor his friends-
But the point is that Monroe has never shown any regret or remorse for hunting humans. In fact, he remembers hunting them fondly because he did it with his grandfather. What's to prevent Monroe from hunting humans again if he so chooses? Not a thing. He has no conscience to prevent him from doing so. I think that's one reason he can so easily go with Nick and kill with him. There's no conscience there to prevent him from killing.
(07-28-2016, 06:50 AM)eric Wrote: Part of the question "is Nick a hero?" depends on your definition of "hero". Is it a flawless person who always does the right thing at the right time(Dudley Doright) or is it a flawed person we admire because of the results (Odysseus of the Odyssey, Hercules). Dudley is a good guy who ends being the butt of jokes. Odysseus lied, stole, cheated on his wife, and ended up getting his crew killed. The Greeks loved him. Hercules did heroic things(the 7 Trials) but ended up killing his wife and kids and had to be saved by the gods. Romans erected statues to him. I see Nick as a stranger in a strange land who tries to do the best he can with what he's got - the books basically tell how to kill, not how to get along. Because he never uses his gifts to enrich himself - extorting money from wessen, killing for hire, making female wessen his sex slaves - choices i would probably be tempted to do - I see him as a hero. Depends on your viewpoint.
Do you view Hercules and Odysseus as heroes, eric?