03-11-2018, 09:17 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-11-2018, 09:21 AM by Adriano Neres Rodrigues.)
(03-11-2018, 08:24 AM)irukandji Wrote:(03-10-2018, 07:31 PM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote:(03-09-2018, 09:28 PM)irukandji Wrote: I could see this if humans and wesen lived for thousands of years, adding and if the show showed some peculiarity in humans and wesen that was passed on from generation to generation. So a tribe of ancient wesen who hated humans in 340 BC would still hate humans in 1977.
But Grimm never proposed that wesen are all of the same. A tribe of human hating wesen in 340 BC might merge with a tribe that contains humans. There may still be some human hating wesen in the bunch, but it's conceivable that there were be wesen who not only learned to like humans, but worked alongside of them for the betterment of the tribe. It's even conceivable that the human hating wesen worked for the betterment of the tribe as well. If they didn't, then the entire tribe was at risk of extinction.
Actually that was exactly what meant. Grimm and wesen and humans living for 50 thousand years and how this would be like today.
I seem to recall a discussion somewhere on this forum that talked about Hitler being a wesen. Hitler managed to unite Germany into a world class force and almost won the world war. It's not likely he would have been able to do so unless wesen, grimms, and humans were working together under that united cause.
You are right. The show said Hitler was a wesen and he was able to unite German.
But considering the show context, Hitler never showed everyone he was a wesen. If German people knew, we don't know what would have happened. Actually, Hitler managed to control German because of the coins... It had nothing to do with he being a wesen or not.
(03-11-2018, 08:19 AM)Robyn Wrote:(03-10-2018, 07:31 PM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote: Actually that was exactly what meant. Grimm and wesen and humans living for 50 thousand years and how this would be like today.Theoretically, it would be similar to evolution we understand today - periods of progression & decline and peace & conflict influenced by natural selection, climate/geography, and species-produced consequences.
A catastrophic event annihilating many dinosaur species and evolution developing surviving species into wildlife Homo sapiens could effectively manage is a significant factor in our evolution. Albeit on a much smaller scale, if Human and Wesen populated the planet in the show’s fictional world, the timely introduction of Grimm better ensured the survival and continued development of Humans. Evolution balancing the playing field between Wesen and Humans wasn’t necessarily meant to bring about the extinction of the Wesen species, only prevent their domination over Humans. However, it questions whether evolution intended the introduction of Grimm to ensure Human domination over Wesen or if Human domination was a result of cause and effect.
(03-10-2018, 07:51 PM)eric Wrote: The Blutbad fought with the Bowerswine, the hexs fougtht with everyone, etc, every group had a least one group it hated more than the humans.Human history is rife with fighting against and murdering our own, so I don’t understand why one Wesen species fighting against another Wesen species would have such a detrimental effect. Do you think Wesen didn’t grasp the concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend until the twenty-first century? Or, do you think the belief that safety required secrecy became so ingrained that it was difficult for a BC like group to convince a sufficient number of affluent Wesen to believe a revolution was possible?
@eric and @robyn
I think you both have a point. In human history we always had a group of humans fighting another group of humans. The point about one wesen type hating another wesen type is that probably they never had a strong reason to fight together against the humans. If they did, probably the humans wouldn't exist anymore. Actually that was BC intention: to have different wesen types fighting together against humans and grimm.
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