02-28-2018, 07:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-28-2018, 09:28 AM by Henry of green.)
(02-28-2018, 06:10 AM)Robyn Wrote:(02-27-2018, 03:32 PM)Henry of green Wrote: I personally never found Nick boring and always found him likeable that’s why he is one of my two favorite characters but I have zero problem with you finding him boring beacuse we all enjoy different things, plus I can see where your coming from he can appear a bit stiff at times . For example I like Monroe he is my 3rd favorite charecter and like Rosalee alot as well as single characters but personally I always found thier relationship as boring even though every one else seemed to really enjoy thier relationship. I wouldn’t go as far as saying I found Juliette boring but I just never really cared about her and never really found her that likeable even though she was a nice person. I hate Renard but he never really annoyed me because I cared enough to hate him I never even cared enough to hate Juliette except for maybe in season 4 when I felt some hate towards her beyond that though my feelings for her went from simply indifference to annoyance but never cared enough to hate her. Put it this way even though I hated Renard with a fiery passion I would chose to keep him in the show over Juliette if given a choice. I can see certainly see why some people like Juliette a lot though as she is a strong independent woman who was always brave in the face of danger but over all she just didn’t have a enough personality for me in when she was Eve.Did your intense hatred for Renard stem from his disloyalty and attack on Nick? Because that’s what I was referring to, a negative reaction to a character for playing the role he/she was given. Roiz did an exceptional portrayal of Renard and except for S5 the character was decisive and in control even in the midst of chaos because he made calculated decisions rather than emotional leaps. In contrast, Coffee delivered an equally entertaining and interesting portrayal of a topsy-turvy, emotionally compulsive Adalind.
But with Juliette, although her characterizations were vastly different they were clearly established and played out within a restricted timeframe, which didn’t allow Tulloch the maneuverability that Roiz and Coffee had with their characters. Adalind’s transition from emotionally erratic schemer to embracing motherhood occurred over three seasons. But once Juliette disclosed she was a Hexenbiest, she quickly descended to raging maniac with little reason to support her lickety-split descent, only to be secreted away and introduced five episodes into the next season as a new character.
I’m not championing Tulloch’s acting skills, but, G & K either considered her capable of pulling off these fast and brief characterizations or ignored that she wasn’t because they didn’t intend to commit and follow through with the Juliette Hexenbiest and Eve characters.
(02-27-2018, 05:54 PM)dicappatore Wrote: Hey, Robyn, trust me, I am not loosing any sleep over these fictional character either. I am just pointing out my likes and dislike as a reason for watching the six seasons of the show.Well you sure do get all bent out of shape whenever a point of view differs from yours.
No Robyn, my dislike of Renard had absolutely nothing to do with Nick I have hated Renard since season 1, in my opinion he has never done anything remotely likeable for anything other than greed . Even when Adalind was a villain I liked her because she showed flashes of vulnerability and was complex in a way I never found Renard , I always took him for a villain even when he was working with the scoobies I still always thought he was just using the gang.
That’s why I may have disliked his turn to BC but wasn’t one bit surprised because I always just thought of him as a villain in hiding I never found him as complex as you did to me he was always just a straight villain. So while I enjoyed Sasha Roiz the actor I disliked Renard because he never done anything to get me to care about him even remotely. Also may I add while I think Rioz is a good actor he is overatted by some, in my opinion the two best actors on the show are Silas weir Mitchell and Claire coffee hands down in my opinion. Which is why I think most polls I have seen seem to indicate their two characters appear the most popular.
Also unlike you I found David a compelling actor for the job he was asked to do, Nick was a bit stiff and uncomplex at times but hero’s often are take superman for example people often consider him boring and stiff. But personally I always liked Nick because I thought he always tried to be morale even when thrown into a crazy and violent world after his aunt died.