02-27-2018, 01:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-27-2018, 01:52 PM by dicappatore.)
(02-27-2018, 07:14 AM)Robyn Wrote:(02-27-2018, 05:25 AM)irukandji Wrote: You're correct, none of the characters' were fully explored. However, Juliette is supposed to be at the pinnacle of the supporting character hierarchy. Yet we have never met any of her family and know little of her background. In comparison to Monroe and Rosalee, Juliette is really the mysterious girlfriend. That should not be if we're to believe the character has importance in the series.Juliette was at the pinnacle of the supporting character hierarchy in that she was a readily available source for the central character’s woe-is-me drama. Juliette turning down the proposal, almost dying from the coma & it’s cure, becoming a Hexenbiest & aligning with the Royals, and whatever else might have happened weren’t about Juliette and her story, but how they affected Nick and his ongoing story as a Grimm. Monroe and Rosalee’s parents weren’t provided to expand their back stories, but rather, to showcase controversy between Nick, the Grimm and the Wesen parents. Monroe quickly informed his father that if forced to choose he would choose Nick. And Nick losing his Grimm was the focal point of Monroe and Rosalee’s wedding.
(02-27-2018, 05:25 AM)irukandji Wrote: I always saw Juliette as the scientist of the series and felt it was a major blunder when they emotionally lobotomized her and tried to make her a soldier.Emotionally lobotomizing the character was a huge mistake, but although handled badly, HW made the Hexenbiest into a soldier, not Juliette. Had the spell not made Juliette so powerful, HW wouldn’t have been more interested in her than any other Hexenbiest.
(02-26-2018, 11:20 PM)dicappatore Wrote: Like him or not, the actor and the Nick character were more popular than Juliette and the actress playing her. Those are the facts based on how popular the actors were, not on their personalities but how they played their roles.I don’t know how the characters were rated by fans, but according to Henry:
“From nearly anything I have read or any poll I have seen the most popular characters on the show were usually Monroe first followed by Adalind in second and Nick in third place.”
Given that Grimm was a drama driven action series with the central character presented as the hero saving the day, Nick coming in third behind his Blutbad mentor and Hexenbiest antagonist isn’t much to brag about. I get it, because I scanned episodes for any brief scenes of Adalind, Renard, the Royals, and the Resistance. But at the end of the show, what is it about Juliette that’s so dislikable? That the show used the character to present the human girlfriend who stayed for four and a half seasons despite being unable to reconcile with the Grimm/Wesen lifestyle, then turned her into a raging Hexenbiest, then turned her into an emotionless fighting machine, then turned her into a stick whammied identity crisis mess? That the central character’s love interest was unable to give him a hundred percent support might cause some fans to dislike the character, but if we’re rating the actor/character on her ability to take on the various characterizations the writers created, then BT accomplished what the creative team expected of her.
Robyn, I am sure the reasons why most disliked Juliette is for the same reasons why I disliked her. 1st, how they wrote her in the "Coma" episodes and then when they made her turn against the main character. Could it be that easy? Yes. Was it the fault of the creative team? Yes. This is what was given on the screen. This is what we have to go with.
Complaining how the writes screwed up her character does not change the character we saw on the screen. As for character Nick, coming in second or third is also due to how the character was written, which is still higher than Juliette.
(02-27-2018, 10:20 AM)Robyn Wrote: Happy Days’ the Fonz immediately came to mind. A character intended as an occasional bit part soared to popularity and made the actor famous and wealthy. I doubt the show runners ever expected a character or actor to be more popular than Ron Howard’s Richie Cunningham. And while Adalind’s popularity never came close to the Fonz mania, the character was originally created for a specific storyline that would conclude within the first season and went on to become the central character’s love interest. You just never know how fans will respond.
The character "Fonzie" was so influential to that show, it caused them to create "Chachi", Scot Baio, to replace him, after the main characters outgrew the show.
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