(05-14-2017, 02:37 PM)Robyn Wrote: The show and the characters are complex and multilayered because of the controversial nature of the storylines. Nick’s first Wesen case as a Grimm was controversial subject matter - a child abduction and intended death. And the pilot was followed by - assassinations attempted and achieved, blackmail, personal revenge, violent deaths, torture, multiple child kidnappings, racism/interracial relationships, a committed relationship destroyed, betrayal, allies becoming enemies, enemies becoming allies, a political coup, a power grab, an ‘omnipotent being’ coveting a young girl as his child bride, and the controversial rape vs. forced prostitution - just to name a few.
Thanks, Robyn. I don't know if you ever saw the first Sin City movie. If you have, you know that that movie deals with complex storylines, murder, pedophilia, extremes taken to avoid criminal prosecution, etc.
However in spite of the complex storylines, the characters are really cardboard characters. Grimm is really very similar in some ways to Sin City, although I think Sin City was a graphic novel and I don't believe Grimm was.
I know there are posters who see the show as a good versus evil story. I hadn't and I'm sure that affected my opinion of Nick. However, looking at Grimm as a dark horror drama, where there really are no good characters, but characters battling the greater of two evils, things fall a little more into place for me.
Juliette is an enigma, though. She actually at one point seemed to me to be the only true good character in the series. She strived to make a comfortable home life for Nick, seemed to be a consummate professional as a veterinarian, and gave the appearance as an all around good friend and companion, despite being kept in the dark for a good portion of season 1.
Her quick transition to evil hexenbiest is a surprise to me because there was no real cause for it. Even in a comic book setting, the characters' are at least given a cause to support why they act the way they do.
(05-14-2017, 02:26 PM)New Guy Wrote: Juliette was the primary violator of inconsistency. Although she was not compelling as Nick's woman, the writers made it clear that was her original purpose. I agree she did not become complex, but did turn evil. IMO, she "wanted" the memory loss, the attraction to Renard, the infidelity, the violence, the betrayal and eventually the murders. She was compellingly evil.
The show established a consequence for extreme evil, death. Nick and the Scoobies resolved evil by putting the perpetrators to death. When G&K had Trubel kill Juliette to save Nick's life, the Juliette story reached a proper conclusion. They provide much evidence of her death, but then they brought her back as FrankenEve. IMO, that decision put the show on in irreversible path to its unfortunate end.
If NBC had cancelled at the end of season 4, Grimm would have a more prestigious place in my list of memorable television.
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Hi New Guy-
I hope you are well too. Thanks for the comments on Juliette. Juliette's turn to evil was a very quick transition without any real explanation as to her motives for doing so. Unlike LOTR, where the orcs were looking forward to running earth (and so you could see their reasons for turning to evil), Juliette really had no incentive to turn her to the dark side.
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