04-04-2017, 11:27 AM
(04-04-2017, 10:21 AM)Hexenadler Wrote:(04-04-2017, 09:58 AM)Mrtrick Wrote: No one ever said Eve doesn't carry the guilt of the things that happened.
No, the show says that itself. She was projecting her own actions onto a separate persona right to the bitter end, as we saw in "Where the Wild Things Were." Her dialogue wasn't, "I'll never forgive myself," but "I'll never forgive Juliette," as if Juliette was an entirely separate entity.
Quote:Those events were tragic, but it's part of the reason why Hadrian's Wall took Juliette and reconditioned her into Eve. Her penance was as a soldier against encroaching dark forces. That penance will continue on as she supports team Grimm in it's struggle.
There wasn't any damn penance. Check out the scene between Eve and Nick in "A Reptile Dysfunction." She's openly refusing to acknowledge Juliette's crimes as her own, and even goes as far as to tell Nick to "stop living in the past" right to his face. As if she ever saw her mother's decapitated head inside a box.
Quote:And how would her being in jail help anyone? She's got much more work to do on the outside.
If my children were hideously slain inside their own home, it would certainly help me. For better context, try to take this scene from "An American Werewolf in London" and substitute the Nazi-demons with the Verrat, and their victims with Nick's neighbors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0wShZqevLU
Now, imagine you're the father of those victims, and you come face-to-face with the woman responsible for their deaths. Only she claims she isn't responsible. She falls back on some wishy-washy metaphorical B.S. about how Juliette Silverton is dead, and she's a completely different person disassociated from those atrocities.
Juliette's friends may have forgiven "Eve" without ever hearing a true apology from her lips, but only because the writers ordered them to. To accept that logic is to accept hackneyed storytelling at its laziest.
The penance Hadrian's wall forces on her is as much about the wiping away of her identity as it is the work she does for them after. She was, in fact, imprisoned and tortured. There's no doubt she suffered greatly through that process. But once Eve is Eve, she is in every sense, a different person. This makes any punishment handed out, of negligible impact. After her humanity begins to return, Eve lives in a nebulous duality of both women. Where once she was unmoved, now she speaks to her inability to forgive Juliette. She knows full well that she's speaking about herself, but the programming still remains in part, so that she can compartmentalize and function. The fight for her is about this very thing. Her purpose is in the struggle. It's because of the Juliette side that she is driven this way. She can't forgive so she must soldier on. The world has moved on and the stories given to those families will be what they carry forward. The men who pulled the triggers are dead, and there is little else that Eve could give to them, that would help it make sense. I suppose she could throw herself, prostrate at their feet and beg for forgiveness, but in the end that would be more about her than them. She could never tell them the whole story. The Wesen live outside of normal society. People could never accept it, so in most ways it must remain apart. There is so much that can't be explained to a lay person, that you have to approach everything from a different perspective. You can't ascribe the same rule of law we live under, to every fantasy world we witness, because they don't correlate. Her experience in becoming dark Juliette is removed from any human perspective known to us. What legal precedence do you use to determine her guilt in a court of law? How can she be given a fair trial when the salient points of her own defense, can't be spoken aloud? They live in a world that's split in two, and there are areas where they can't come together.