02-23-2017, 06:17 PM
Quote:How did you comprehend my point as actions control intent. Intent is not determined by results.Exactly. As in my example, that Adalind failed to kill Marie does not change her intent.
Quote:As for intent there is nothing in the show that says or suggest Juliette intent was anything other then helping the Royals recover Diana. Was her motivation to hurt Adalind most likely. But then Adalind intent was also to help the Royals recover Diana. Was her motivation for turning in Kelly as the one who had Diana and act of revenge. I am sure it was. Just like Adalind going to kidnap Juliette was a way to hurt Nick for helping to take Diana. Adalind went into a complete woge and tried to hit Juliette in the head with a vase.I’m not interested in running a tally to establish that each time one character did something, the other did something worse. Neither is responsible for the other’s actions. Adalind wanted her baby back, and I have no reason to believe she cared about the wellbeing of the kidnappers. If Adalind wanted revenge in addition to getting Diana back, that choice wasn’t forced on her. If Juliette wanted revenge on Adalind and/or Nick that choice wasn’t forced on her. And if Juliette’s only intent was to help out the Royals, then her actions are strikingly similar to Adalind helping out Renard.
Quote:AS for putting Diana in danger. At no time has Diana ever been in danger. The danger was to those around her. Even on the run from the castle Diana was never in danger. Diana dead is of no value to anyone. Kenneth would have protected Diana with his life. Kennneth knew Diana dies he dies. The Royals would have had his head.It doesn’t matter what you as viewer know about Diana’s powers or safety. The question is what Juliette knew or was concerned about. You expected Adalind to concede that Kelly knew what was best for Diana, but dismiss that Juliette should have even suspected that Diana would be at risk when Kenneth tried to take her from Kelly by force.
Quote:You keep wanting to make Juliette'[s action to be deranged and murderous. Yet you can not point to one thing in the she that point to either Adalind and Juliette having murderous intent. Even Adalind using violence to kidnap Juliette does not show murderous intent.I haven’t said a freaking thing about a murderous anything. Your girl became a Hexenbiest and went off the deep end. That’s the short and long of it. Get over it. My girl became a mousy introvert. But there’s no need for me to make excuses or dwell on what I can’t change.
Quote:There are things to consider that make that observation not quite accurate.The only conclusion to this debate is that Juliette, Eve, whatever moniker she may chose, is absolutely perfect to the bitter end. Adalind is everything that is wrong, evil, undesirable, whatever negative description you care to add. This is too ridiculous to debate.
Sean if wealthy so no mater what he would and will always land on his feet. So he is able to do what he wants. He has no need for anyone else to survive.
Nick is living in a warehouse. had it been destroyed he would have not had anywhere to go. This was shown in the beginning of season 6 where he was also homeless.
Eve has never given the impression that she had to be anywhere. From the beginning Juliette has always been perceived as being independent and is only somewhere because she wanted to be there. A good example is she is leaving the fome because she no longer wants to be there. Even Juliette when she left Nick she choose to stay in her car. She then left Sean's because she no longer wanted to be there. Even when she started to work with Kenneth, she had no expectations he was going to take care of her.
Adalind on the other hand only in season one has she been on her own. But even then she was dependent on Sean. For the next five season she has dependent on one person or the other. Most of the time that support was based on her being a desirable female.
Adalind stayed with Eric because she was his lover. She stayed with Viktor after he bought her a closet full of cloths. She then went to Nick for protection. With Diana she went to Sean for protection.
Juliette nor Eve has ever gone to anyone expecting anything. Even when Juliette went to Sean she expected nothing and was offended when Sean asked something of her.
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke