06-20-2016, 07:36 AM
(06-20-2016, 06:52 AM)degrimm Wrote:It is obvious that some confuse rights and responsibilities. The ability to do something does not give you the right. Anyone has the ability to get a gun, walk into a convenience store, steal the cash and shoot the kid behind the register. Just because you are high on drugs to which you are addicted is no excuse. An addiction (or "spell") does not take away responsibility.(06-20-2016, 04:47 AM)New Guy Wrote:(06-19-2016, 06:50 PM)Robyn Wrote:I do not excuse abhorrent behavior. The spell/potion "excuse" is malarkey. A police captain must live by high moral and ethical standards. He must have great self control. His relations with Juliette are a gross betrayal of Nick's trust. IMO Renard made no attempt to resist his desire for Juliette. A real man would shown full control and respected Nick and Juliette's relationship. He is not worthy to be Nick's boss.(06-19-2016, 06:01 PM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote:That's how I remember it too. Whether it was understood or unexpected, not sure, but the spell ultimately made Renard and Juliette irresistibly attracted to one another. Renard approached Rosalee at the Spice Shop for a counter potion before the attraction turned deadly. Renard could no more resist his desire for Juliette than she could resist her desire for him.(06-19-2016, 05:58 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Kathryn,Oh come on Monroe and Roealee admit with the potion became a obsession spell and they both Juliette and Renard could not stay away from each other....your point on Renard does not hold up..when it was the potion that cause the deadly obsssession and they were unable to stay away from each other...
It was 2.07 when Sleazy Sean stalks Juliette, breaks into Nick's house, watches her shower and breaks the picture of Nick and Juliette. No Hexenbiest wiles, just a perverted police captain betraying the trust of a subordinate detective. He is despicable and a disgrace to the City of Portland. Nick needs to pummel Renard until his face resembles the metal coffin Baron Samedi locked him in after nick punched his way out.
New Guy
I thinks that’s why Nick didn’t overreact, he knew both were victims of the spell/potion. And without the initial potion Juliette may have stayed in a comatose state.
Juliette's behavior was just as bad. Nick should have put her out on the curb.
Renard and Juliette were fully able to stay away from each other and were obligated to show respect to Nick. IMO they are both disgusting. They both betrayed Nick and cannot be trusted.
New Guy
it's pretty obvious you don't know what it means to be under a spell or a curse such that you have no control over your actions; better still the closet to such, is an addiction.
you should know what an addiction is; i'm not saying they are similar but you can on some level compare a spell to an addiction.
i've been under an addiction and i know how it feels to want to stop on your own cos you have an idea how to stop it but you keep going back then compare to a spell where you have no idea how to stop it cos you don't know when and where it's coming from
Everyone is responsible for their own behavior. Even an addict high on drugs knows it is wrong to steal and kill. The Grimm Brothers used their Fairy Tales to show how those who cannot control their behavior are responsible for any bad they do or harm they cause and must face consequences for such behavior. To excuse Renard and Juliette for their foul behavior is contrary to the law of natural consequence and the Grimm Brothers methods of writing.
http://all-that-is-interesting.com/grimm-fairytales
New Guy