(02-27-2016, 09:18 PM)syscrash Wrote: From a technical stand point what Nick did to Adalind was rape as well as what Adalind did to Nick. But the question was why is it not considered rape. two different questions. For example. You get home your wallet is gone, did you loses it or was it stolen. One would give you a sense of embarrassment the other a sense of being violated. Lets say you set it down next to you, a person sits down and walks away with it. Did the person that picked it up seal it. do you have a reason to feel violated. Let's say you set it down, person sits next to you. You walk away without it. They pick it up did they steal it, can you feel violated. The point I am making is, it is perception, not the act.
What Nick did to Adalind was in a sense, rape. She was ravaged and plundered in an effort to destroy her hexenbiest. You are correct.
But I wasn't trying to make the point that Adalind was raped, so therefore, Nick should be raped as well. I merely wanted to talk about Nick's reaction to being raped.
I don't consider theft the same as rape. People feel violated when they're the victims of theft, I'm not arguing that. But I consider rape a far more insidious crime than theft.
(02-27-2016, 09:18 PM)syscrash Wrote: I have always contended Nick may not have known it was Adalind, but he sure knew it was not Juliette, or something was wrong or different with Juliette. So either he did not care he was with what did not act like Juliette or he took advantage that Juliette was not herself. And that troubles me more, that fact that Nick seeing something is different, knowing the strange is his reality. Would not take the time to investigate why his beloved is acting so different. In the car Juliette ask about the gown, but it doesn't see the disconnect. She would remember if she had put it there. So either he know or didn't care who it was. So where is the violation.
I have gotten two mens' opinions on this. Izzy stated all men are pigs, so Nick wouldn't care. He was out for himself. Nick did not have an evident reaction to Adalind's deception, so I could see Izzy's point.
But my husband gave a very different opinion. He said Nick believed it was Juliette he was with. If she tried something different and the outcome was in the wow factor, great. If she stuck to the routine, still great. The point was they connected, the actions she took to get to that point didn't matter.
But here's the dilemma. According to many on this forum, Nick loved Juliette, wholeheartedly. Now Adalind's come along and taken her form. If Nick really and truly loved Juliette as many here believe, then he would see Adalind's actions as a violation. She was an outsider tampering with an intimacy he had with his beloved Juliette.
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