02-27-2016, 06:57 AM
(02-26-2016, 10:23 PM)irukandji Wrote:(02-26-2016, 07:35 PM)Nightschade Wrote: Also, another thing about the Nick and Adalind as Juliette situation. People keep trying to frame it as if Adalind out of the blue decided that she was going to disguise herself as Juliette and take away Nick's grimm powers for revenge-- she thought that it was the only way that she would see her child. This doesn't make what happened okay, but because of this I view it as more of a rape by proxy situation with Victor as the perpetrator and Adalind and Nick both as victims.
I don't know where it's been said that Adalind's being framed. I was talking about Nick's response to being raped.
I did not say that Adalind was framed. I said that people frame that storyline a certain way. When people are talking about it, most people don't even really mention Victor's involvement even though he literally blackmailed her in to it. I also didn't say that that fact makes what she did right, but it is still the context of the situation.
(02-26-2016, 10:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: It's really fascinating to read just how far people will go to avoid the subject. Nick wasn't raped because he enjoyed it. Juliette is a pariah because she overreacted. And I admit it, I was on that bandwagon too. Until I realized that she had every right to be outraged. It was not only her lover that was used, she was the victim of the worst kind of identity theft.
I did not use any of these arguments in my original post because I do not believe any of these things. I think Juliette's reaction was perfectly reasonable. I agree that Nick's reaction should have been stronger. In the part of my post that you quoted, I specifically called it rape. I know a lot of people on this post have said things along this line, but I am not one of them, and so I took this more as a reply to everyone in general than to me specifically. If this was specifically to me and there was something in my original post that you were trying to discuss, I apologize, and we can definitely do that.
(02-26-2016, 10:23 PM)irukandji Wrote: Adalind had the luxury of expending tremendous amounts of money, time, and energy to look for Diana. That seems to have faded fast. Now she's just mooning around, 'hoping' Diana is okay. So much for searching for her.
Nick never got the luxury of being outraged over himself, his home and lover being violated. He didn't get the luxury of being able to think the entire situation through, even to the point of tracing it back to the kidnapping or Adalind's attempted murder of Marie. He didn't even get the luxury of talking to Juliette about the embarrassment and humiliation he must have felt, thinking it was Juliette he was with and instead it turned out to be Adalind. Instead, he was whispering to Hank about how he wished he had his powers back even though he told Juliette he wanted to be normal.
What could have been a great story arc got buried in mediocrity.
All of this is a writing issue in my opinion. The writers include complicated emotional and ethical storylines for 'drama' and then never follow through on them because they drop them in favor of new storylines or to focus on something else that is going on. In my opinion, they could have had enough story for this season just focusing on the complex and toxic situations that they've created for these characters, but they decided to add in the uprising plot, which takes up almost all the time, so the characters threads were all just dropped. I'm sure they'll pick them up again when its convenient for them.