Nick never expressed any reaction/emotion that conveyed he felt raped. Tricked. Yes. Raped No. What Nick did demonstratively express was his delight of the best sexual pleasure he and Juliette had ever experienced.
Only problem was, he shared his joy minutes before Juliette informed him it wasn’t her. Nick couldn’t unshare what he’d just shared with Juliette. So they’d have to live with it and pretend he never had that reaction to sex with Adalind while disguised as Juliette.
Nick was upset & angry because he’d hurt & embarrassed Juliette, and because he lost his Grimm.
But if we decide to disregard Nick’s reaction and insist that it be properly labeled as rape, then we should explore the cause of the rape and similar unsavory behavior.
Kelly, Renard, Nick, and the gang conspired & kidnapped Adalind’s baby, then lied to her that Viktor had her baby. Viktor used the Portland gang’s deceit to his advantage making Adalind believe if she took Nick’s Grimm he would allow her to return to the castle & live with her child.
What parent would opt to give up their child for the sake of not harming one of the people that kidnapped their child? Nick & Adalind had been enemies since the day Renard pitted them against each other. Nick didn’t give a damn about Adalind’s emotional breakdown over losing her baby; why should Adalind give a damn about Nick losing his Grimm?
If Adalind raped Nick by deception, then Nick murdered Adalind’s hexenbiest by deception. Nick goaded Adalind into a fight with preconceived intentions of getting her to ingest his blood which would kill her hexenbiest - an innate part of her. Nick killed Adalind’s hexenbiest to save Hank’s life. Adalind took Nick’s Grimm to get her child back. Both used deceit to save persons important to them. One act is no more or no less criminal than the other.
The Rooftop Conversation:
On it’s face, the conversation was tactless, vulgar even. But when we remove ourselves as viewers from the exchange, it becomes a private conversation that is brutally frank between two people that trust one another to keep the conversation private.
I took Monroe’s comment about Nick sleeping with both women while each other as being more about the impact it had on Nick & Adalind’s arrangement/relationship/feelings. It’s how/why their son was conceived, and in order for their arrangement/relationship/feelings to move forward, they have to get past it.
I didn’t see Nick as uncomfortable about the Nick/Adalind/Juliette sex as he was about Monroe questioning his & Adalind’s feeling about one another. Nick said he didn’t know how Adalind felt about him because they didn’t talk about it. But they did. At his prompting. Nick shared a rather intimate secret with Adalind - he chose being a Grimm over a normal life with Juliette & she agreed to it. And then he gave Adalind a big neon green light that he was ready for them to explore their feelings. But Adalind wasn’t interested in exploring anything beyond their brief, closed-mouth kiss, and closed the door on any future exploration until some undisclosed date when they’re both sure it’s about them & what they really want from their arrangement/relationship.
Nick tried again while they were discussing the murders/rain ritual, but again, Adalind shut him down. Nick gave it his best boy next door charm and Adalind walked away, ignoring he’d put it out there.
Nick told Monroe he didn’t know how he was supposed to feel about Adalind, he’d hated her for so long. They were living together & had a kid, it was both strange & normal.
But Nick does know how he feels about Adalind, or maybe more precise, he knows how he’d feel if he allowed himself to. And I think that’s what most of Nick’s guilt, especially where Juliette’s concerned, stems from. His & Adalind’s husband/wife-father/mother household might feel strange, but it also feels normal to him, and he’s enjoying it & feeling more relaxed about it day by day.
But he’s not completely ready to admit it to himself, and not anywhere near ready admitting it to Monroe or anyone else. So he evades just enough to get by.
For me, the one thing blaringly missing from the conversation was any follow up to Nick’s comment - Who would have believed Adalind would be such a good mother?
Do any of them give a damn that Adalind’s other child is with the Royals - or does only Nick’s child matter? Do any of them question that Adalind would have been an equally wonderful mother to her daughter had they not kidnapped her? Do any of them question that Adalind would have likely never returned to Portland and none of the S4 disaster would have occurred if Kelly Burkhardt had followed orders instead of rerouting the plane to Portland?
Until a frank discussion takes place about Diana’s kidnapping & how it went down, for me, any possible Nick/Adalind relationship will be far more tainted by Nick’s actions than from Adalind raping Nick in hopes of getting her child back.
Only problem was, he shared his joy minutes before Juliette informed him it wasn’t her. Nick couldn’t unshare what he’d just shared with Juliette. So they’d have to live with it and pretend he never had that reaction to sex with Adalind while disguised as Juliette.
Nick was upset & angry because he’d hurt & embarrassed Juliette, and because he lost his Grimm.
But if we decide to disregard Nick’s reaction and insist that it be properly labeled as rape, then we should explore the cause of the rape and similar unsavory behavior.
Kelly, Renard, Nick, and the gang conspired & kidnapped Adalind’s baby, then lied to her that Viktor had her baby. Viktor used the Portland gang’s deceit to his advantage making Adalind believe if she took Nick’s Grimm he would allow her to return to the castle & live with her child.
What parent would opt to give up their child for the sake of not harming one of the people that kidnapped their child? Nick & Adalind had been enemies since the day Renard pitted them against each other. Nick didn’t give a damn about Adalind’s emotional breakdown over losing her baby; why should Adalind give a damn about Nick losing his Grimm?
If Adalind raped Nick by deception, then Nick murdered Adalind’s hexenbiest by deception. Nick goaded Adalind into a fight with preconceived intentions of getting her to ingest his blood which would kill her hexenbiest - an innate part of her. Nick killed Adalind’s hexenbiest to save Hank’s life. Adalind took Nick’s Grimm to get her child back. Both used deceit to save persons important to them. One act is no more or no less criminal than the other.
The Rooftop Conversation:
On it’s face, the conversation was tactless, vulgar even. But when we remove ourselves as viewers from the exchange, it becomes a private conversation that is brutally frank between two people that trust one another to keep the conversation private.
I took Monroe’s comment about Nick sleeping with both women while each other as being more about the impact it had on Nick & Adalind’s arrangement/relationship/feelings. It’s how/why their son was conceived, and in order for their arrangement/relationship/feelings to move forward, they have to get past it.
I didn’t see Nick as uncomfortable about the Nick/Adalind/Juliette sex as he was about Monroe questioning his & Adalind’s feeling about one another. Nick said he didn’t know how Adalind felt about him because they didn’t talk about it. But they did. At his prompting. Nick shared a rather intimate secret with Adalind - he chose being a Grimm over a normal life with Juliette & she agreed to it. And then he gave Adalind a big neon green light that he was ready for them to explore their feelings. But Adalind wasn’t interested in exploring anything beyond their brief, closed-mouth kiss, and closed the door on any future exploration until some undisclosed date when they’re both sure it’s about them & what they really want from their arrangement/relationship.
Nick tried again while they were discussing the murders/rain ritual, but again, Adalind shut him down. Nick gave it his best boy next door charm and Adalind walked away, ignoring he’d put it out there.
Nick told Monroe he didn’t know how he was supposed to feel about Adalind, he’d hated her for so long. They were living together & had a kid, it was both strange & normal.
But Nick does know how he feels about Adalind, or maybe more precise, he knows how he’d feel if he allowed himself to. And I think that’s what most of Nick’s guilt, especially where Juliette’s concerned, stems from. His & Adalind’s husband/wife-father/mother household might feel strange, but it also feels normal to him, and he’s enjoying it & feeling more relaxed about it day by day.
But he’s not completely ready to admit it to himself, and not anywhere near ready admitting it to Monroe or anyone else. So he evades just enough to get by.
For me, the one thing blaringly missing from the conversation was any follow up to Nick’s comment - Who would have believed Adalind would be such a good mother?
Do any of them give a damn that Adalind’s other child is with the Royals - or does only Nick’s child matter? Do any of them question that Adalind would have been an equally wonderful mother to her daughter had they not kidnapped her? Do any of them question that Adalind would have likely never returned to Portland and none of the S4 disaster would have occurred if Kelly Burkhardt had followed orders instead of rerouting the plane to Portland?
Until a frank discussion takes place about Diana’s kidnapping & how it went down, for me, any possible Nick/Adalind relationship will be far more tainted by Nick’s actions than from Adalind raping Nick in hopes of getting her child back.