02-13-2016, 07:26 AM
I took my own advice and went and watched the episodes ,I stress episodes not episode, with an open mind. I found I had telescoped several episodes into one and reworked conversations putting in my own interpretations instead of what was said. I watched to the end of 4:16. Nick hadn't told Rosalee and Monroe that Juliette was a hexenbiest. Rosalee great line 'Juliette's a freaking hexenbiest' meant she couldn't have known before Juliette showe up in the Spice Shop. Consistent storylines, one which keeps Nick going to Rosalee and Monroe when there's a wesen matter he can't resolve, put aside on the grounds that a great line is rarer and must be accommodated.
The actual Juliette hexenbiest reveal goes on and on. It appears the characters suffer amnesia from one episode to another. I interpreted Juliette's 'no, Nick you can't protect me, I'll have to do that myself' as 'I don't need you anymore' and moved it into 4.14 where much of the reveal takes place. syscrash has called me on other instances. I own up and will be more careful in future,
I felt at the time and still feel the Juliette hexenbiest reveal would have been more effective, more powerful done in one episode and with Nick piecing together the clues. He's solved cases with fewer clues than Juliette's a hexenbiest. Starting with Juliette reading about hexenbiest in the trailer. Having watched the episodes, I can confirm no-one told Juliette where Nick had moved the trailer to. If it was done, the scene got deleted and didn't make it. If she'd been doing general reading, there'd have been no need to try to hide the fact.
Onto 4.14. Juliette goes all hexenbiest on Nick (end of 4.13) and Nick draws his gun. He thinks its Adalind up to her old tricks and says so. Juliette talks fast, literally, and convinces Nick that she is Juliette. Nick holsters his gun and the scene follows the transcript New Guy posted. In terms of side effects, Elizabeth says Nick may experience some. She says nothing about Juliette and she's probably a more powerful and experience hexenbiest than either Henrietta or Adalind.
Nick's left to think about his love for Juliette, but gets called away on a case. He sleeps on a couch and wakes to Juliette coming down the stairs with sunlight streaming in to the house. I remember this scene perfectly. It's not explained if Nick regularly slept on the couch after a very late night or if this is just because Juliette's a hexenbiest. In this episode we see Renard suffer his bleeding incident. Henrietta's last visitor before Sean and the Ripper comes to kill her is Adalind. Henrietta tells her she's pregnant again.
I have to wait to the end of 4.14 for Juliette to leave Nick. She goes hexenbiest on him and tells him he can't even look at her. This is her forever face. Nick is actually resisting what she trying to do to compel him to kiss her. It's not explained whether Nick's success is due his adapting to resist what Henrietta demonstrated or just because Juliette isn't skilled enough.
Henrietta appears to read Nick's mind. She tells him he's two options. Kill Juliette or accept her as a hexenbiest. He can't kill her, so he'll have to accept her. He'll tell Juliette she learnt to accept him as a Grimm, so he can learn to accept her as a hexenbiest. Henrietta advises Nick give Juliette space whilst she's learning to control her powers or it will get messy. Nick's phone cals in subsequent episodes show his concern for Juliette , but he's not heeding Henrietta's advice.
Henrietta says that 'I am not as skilled as she will become'. I had to rewatch that a few times to make sure Henrietta used the pronoun there in place of Juliette. If Henrietta means Juliette, why not say her name? That brought to mind Nick's dream in the first ever episode about Juliette walking through the Black Forest, though you couldn't see her hair colour. That may indicate Eve will follow Nick to Germany and that the transformation in Juliette's character arc was planned from the get-go. Henrietta is positive Juliette will learn to control her powers off her own bat. The shows been overselling Juliette is dead, there's only Eve far too much. Eve's only a convenience for Juliette is what I think this means. I think she's still bad news for Nick.
So after a night's sleep in her car, Juliette goes to stay with Renard until she's figured out what she is. Err, just just said to Nick that your hexenbiest face was your 'forever face'. The following morning she says 'before I met you people I was normal, I want my life back. If i don't get it, you'd better watch out'. Okay, so now you don't want to be a hexenbiest. Nick finally tells Hank who asks if it's reversible. Nick says not from what they say. I draw from that Nick accepts what Juliette is, but would still like to be able to change it. Hank's there for support. Hank's accepting the information that Juliette is a hexenbiest.
Flip to 4:16 and Nick says he'll help try to change Juliette's transformation and Juliette asks 'why?' Nick responds with 'because I love you' to which Juliette laughs in his face.She's then exceedingly patronizing. Nick's supportive and reasonable. He'll accept Juliette as a hexenbiest, but he's not going to stop until he's found a cure for a situation he believes is his fault. But is it? Juliette's not open to being helped and has already ended her relationship with Nick. in 4:16 she's just come to collect her things.
Henrietta tells Nick that the Grimm's Blood is not an option because of what Adalind did to Juliette. Adalind tells Renard that if Nick had help becoming a Grimm again that explains why Juliette is a hexenbiest. I must be slow because there's no explanation given for either. Adalind's potion was to steal the Grimm's powers not do anything to Juliette. There's no logical reason given why Grimm's Blood wouldn't have worked. Elizabeth was the one who made the counter-potion to restore Nick's powers. Again, there is nothing being done to Juliette. Adalind didn't explain the 'explanation'.
Adalind did overcome the effect of Grimm Blood in successfully completing the Contaminalis Ritualis. That should have meant Grimm's Blood no longer had any effect on any hexenbiest. It's not what Henrietta said. She didn't trust the Grimm, perhaps. She didn't tell Adalind how Juliette got so good so fast, either. Adalind had already experienced Juliette's powers.
So what then was the side-effect Nick was supposed to suffer? I believe the ripper was originally have been set on taking up residence in Nick. That was changed to Renard a story line, explaining how Kenneth was able to beat him up and explained by the link Elizabeth and Sean share due to the means she used to bring him back to life. I think it worked better with Renard than it would have with Nick.
Nick was protecting and siding with his unborn son in the Police station and Juliette ought to have been arrested.
HW worked to help Juliette heal and to use her powers as Eve. Juliette would have done both, but it would have taken longer. Nick should have Henrietta's warning that Juliette will become more skilled and able to use her power constantly in his mind, when in her presence.
Did Nick receive an off screen phone call from Elizabeth that told him to play dumb, go along with things, but told him what was going on? I'd like to believe so. It would make everything a lot more believable.
The actual Juliette hexenbiest reveal goes on and on. It appears the characters suffer amnesia from one episode to another. I interpreted Juliette's 'no, Nick you can't protect me, I'll have to do that myself' as 'I don't need you anymore' and moved it into 4.14 where much of the reveal takes place. syscrash has called me on other instances. I own up and will be more careful in future,
I felt at the time and still feel the Juliette hexenbiest reveal would have been more effective, more powerful done in one episode and with Nick piecing together the clues. He's solved cases with fewer clues than Juliette's a hexenbiest. Starting with Juliette reading about hexenbiest in the trailer. Having watched the episodes, I can confirm no-one told Juliette where Nick had moved the trailer to. If it was done, the scene got deleted and didn't make it. If she'd been doing general reading, there'd have been no need to try to hide the fact.
Onto 4.14. Juliette goes all hexenbiest on Nick (end of 4.13) and Nick draws his gun. He thinks its Adalind up to her old tricks and says so. Juliette talks fast, literally, and convinces Nick that she is Juliette. Nick holsters his gun and the scene follows the transcript New Guy posted. In terms of side effects, Elizabeth says Nick may experience some. She says nothing about Juliette and she's probably a more powerful and experience hexenbiest than either Henrietta or Adalind.
Nick's left to think about his love for Juliette, but gets called away on a case. He sleeps on a couch and wakes to Juliette coming down the stairs with sunlight streaming in to the house. I remember this scene perfectly. It's not explained if Nick regularly slept on the couch after a very late night or if this is just because Juliette's a hexenbiest. In this episode we see Renard suffer his bleeding incident. Henrietta's last visitor before Sean and the Ripper comes to kill her is Adalind. Henrietta tells her she's pregnant again.
I have to wait to the end of 4.14 for Juliette to leave Nick. She goes hexenbiest on him and tells him he can't even look at her. This is her forever face. Nick is actually resisting what she trying to do to compel him to kiss her. It's not explained whether Nick's success is due his adapting to resist what Henrietta demonstrated or just because Juliette isn't skilled enough.
Henrietta appears to read Nick's mind. She tells him he's two options. Kill Juliette or accept her as a hexenbiest. He can't kill her, so he'll have to accept her. He'll tell Juliette she learnt to accept him as a Grimm, so he can learn to accept her as a hexenbiest. Henrietta advises Nick give Juliette space whilst she's learning to control her powers or it will get messy. Nick's phone cals in subsequent episodes show his concern for Juliette , but he's not heeding Henrietta's advice.
Henrietta says that 'I am not as skilled as she will become'. I had to rewatch that a few times to make sure Henrietta used the pronoun there in place of Juliette. If Henrietta means Juliette, why not say her name? That brought to mind Nick's dream in the first ever episode about Juliette walking through the Black Forest, though you couldn't see her hair colour. That may indicate Eve will follow Nick to Germany and that the transformation in Juliette's character arc was planned from the get-go. Henrietta is positive Juliette will learn to control her powers off her own bat. The shows been overselling Juliette is dead, there's only Eve far too much. Eve's only a convenience for Juliette is what I think this means. I think she's still bad news for Nick.
So after a night's sleep in her car, Juliette goes to stay with Renard until she's figured out what she is. Err, just just said to Nick that your hexenbiest face was your 'forever face'. The following morning she says 'before I met you people I was normal, I want my life back. If i don't get it, you'd better watch out'. Okay, so now you don't want to be a hexenbiest. Nick finally tells Hank who asks if it's reversible. Nick says not from what they say. I draw from that Nick accepts what Juliette is, but would still like to be able to change it. Hank's there for support. Hank's accepting the information that Juliette is a hexenbiest.
Flip to 4:16 and Nick says he'll help try to change Juliette's transformation and Juliette asks 'why?' Nick responds with 'because I love you' to which Juliette laughs in his face.She's then exceedingly patronizing. Nick's supportive and reasonable. He'll accept Juliette as a hexenbiest, but he's not going to stop until he's found a cure for a situation he believes is his fault. But is it? Juliette's not open to being helped and has already ended her relationship with Nick. in 4:16 she's just come to collect her things.
Henrietta tells Nick that the Grimm's Blood is not an option because of what Adalind did to Juliette. Adalind tells Renard that if Nick had help becoming a Grimm again that explains why Juliette is a hexenbiest. I must be slow because there's no explanation given for either. Adalind's potion was to steal the Grimm's powers not do anything to Juliette. There's no logical reason given why Grimm's Blood wouldn't have worked. Elizabeth was the one who made the counter-potion to restore Nick's powers. Again, there is nothing being done to Juliette. Adalind didn't explain the 'explanation'.
Adalind did overcome the effect of Grimm Blood in successfully completing the Contaminalis Ritualis. That should have meant Grimm's Blood no longer had any effect on any hexenbiest. It's not what Henrietta said. She didn't trust the Grimm, perhaps. She didn't tell Adalind how Juliette got so good so fast, either. Adalind had already experienced Juliette's powers.
So what then was the side-effect Nick was supposed to suffer? I believe the ripper was originally have been set on taking up residence in Nick. That was changed to Renard a story line, explaining how Kenneth was able to beat him up and explained by the link Elizabeth and Sean share due to the means she used to bring him back to life. I think it worked better with Renard than it would have with Nick.
Nick was protecting and siding with his unborn son in the Police station and Juliette ought to have been arrested.
HW worked to help Juliette heal and to use her powers as Eve. Juliette would have done both, but it would have taken longer. Nick should have Henrietta's warning that Juliette will become more skilled and able to use her power constantly in his mind, when in her presence.
Did Nick receive an off screen phone call from Elizabeth that told him to play dumb, go along with things, but told him what was going on? I'd like to believe so. It would make everything a lot more believable.