(12-20-2015, 05:39 PM)irukandji Wrote:(12-20-2015, 05:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote: On the other hand, if she is fortunate enough to get someone who loves and guides her along for the next few years, maybe the good start I hope she received from Kelly will keep her on the right path.
Hey speakeasy, I wanted to ask a question. You mentioned in the Juliette and the Mayor thread that the only alternative you saw for Juliette after this uprising was over was for her to be killed off because the character was just to powerful to be left alive. I am paraphrasing here, so apologies. I am assuming you think she should be killed whether she ends up being a force for good or for evil.
Diana, in my opinion, is more powerful than Juliette ever was. What is your opinion on what should happen to her after the uprising?
Hi, Irukandji, I agree that Diana is much more powerful than Juliette. She's a blank slate now, with the story of how she uses her gifts to be written by those who guide her from here on, imo. Can't envision her going bad, because I've always thought she was the one who would save the world, but her behavior is kinda puzzling right now. So, after the uprising, good or bad, I'll still hold to the prospect of her being a righteous girl - and I see no reason now to think she couldn't live in society without being a threat to the general welfare.
Think the word I used to explain why I thought Juliette would have to be killed off was dangerous. Closest I can come to describing it is that she's been 'rearranged' more than once, others have acted upon her, it's not her fault, imo. If I understand correctly, she now has no emotions. If I have that wrong (I don't read the spoilers, but I've read a couple of interviews), I'll have to retract. But without emotions, I don't think there could be a force for good or for evil; just a force. Without emotions I don't feel we can have a conscience; those who cannot experience the emotion of empathy cannot feel it, therefore it doesn't exist in their internal universe, thus they have no conscience. Those who show they have no conscience can't exist peaceably with others, they are a danger to society.
If she does have some emotions, just not any associated with her relationship to Nick, then I still feel the same. But that is a visceral inclination and harder to put into words, the character just seems bound for tragedy.
There's good news here, I rarely call 'em right, and I'm probably really wrong about this. To the chagrin of some posters, I'm a big fan of Juliette.
(12-20-2015, 05:15 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Speakeasy,
Your theory:Quote:Speaking of Kelly, I've always thought that Juliette set fire to the trailer as a ruse to make certain Nick was occupied while she secretly went to the house to email Kelly. Think Nick noticed the mouse had been moved when he came home, but didn't make anything of it.Is plausible. Hexenette's tirades of murder and mayhem make me so angry that I miss some of the nuances of her violence.
Speaking of the trailer, I read as much or more Grimm Fan Commentary about Hexenette's arson crime than all her murder crimes. It is kind of sad we place more value on possessions than people.
New Guy
I agree with you closing statement, but it seems that most posters object strongly to immoral behavior on the part of all the characters on Grimm and that's a good thing. You have a family to have to constantly explain what they see happening on the program in light of decent behavior so it's probably discouraging to see the trend toward more darkness on Grimm. Until I started reading more in depth the postings about what makes Grimm folks tick, I just watched for the pure entertainment value of the show. But have to admit, there would be much more of a responsibility to filter through my t.v. viewing if I had youngsters to answer to.
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