06-24-2015, 03:56 PM
(06-24-2015, 05:19 AM)irukandji Wrote: I was. Before you came into the argument, the debate was about Juliette. I wanted to tie her back into my argument.
I understand. Please forgive me for deviate from the original argument. I was just tring to give new elements to the debate.
So, let me start again following your logic. No CONTEXT, no "what if" and no interpretation... Just analyzing the facts.
(06-24-2015, 05:19 AM)irukandji Wrote: Mine was about the fact that Nick should have viewed himself as a detective first. His oath should mean something to him, not a nothing that he can break just because *thinks* things should be handled differently.
I understand and agree that Nick is a detective and should act as one, doesn't matter if he has any special knowlodge or power comparing the others. If he doesn't feel able to be a correct policeman and a grimm at the same time, leave the corporation. His obrigation is with the society with he make a promise to follow the law and the procedures.
As Nick doesn't follow the rules, he is a corrupt policeman. Doesn't matter if he broke the rules many times or just one. In this case, he is a criminal and should be judge by the times he broke the procedures. I don't know how things happend in USA, but where I live there is a special tribunal for cops.
Looking at Juliette plot, she worked for an organization from out of america and while doing this work she was responsable or accomplice for committing the following crimes on American soil:
- disturbing the peace in the neighborhood
- deaths of American citizens in their own homes
- kidnapping of a child
- I don't know in USA, but in Brazil she would be judge for international child abduction, since Diana was being taking out of the country without the permition of her mother, Adelaind, neighter her father Sean.
- maybe someone can remember more...
The right thing to happen would be Juliette be judge for those crimes. Also, Sean be judged for:
- the killings of the Jack.
- He also killed a member of his family in a past episode - unfortunatly no prove against him hear inside the show
- Was in collusion with the Wesson who ran the fight club - again, unfortunatly no prove against him hear inside the show
- Many other things that I don't remenber now.
Nick and Hank should be judged for the things we have alread discussed.
But in the judgement of Nick and Hank, Monroe and Rosalee (and Julietee) were accomplices in many of their crimes. They must be judge in those one too.
There is no saint in grimm and all of them are criminals. And taking what the writers aparently intend to do, Nick will became even more criminal, if it is possible to messure "more criminal" or "less criminal".