06-23-2015, 01:38 PM
(06-23-2015, 11:28 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Good point a normal cop arrests a wesen without knowing they are wesen. Nick as a Grimm they know he is a Grimm and they react to the Grimm more than the cop, thinking he's old school Grimm, so instead of just giving up they fight. Good point
That is my point... this must be considered. This is the context where they live.
(06-23-2015, 10:43 AM)irukandji Wrote: First of all, she'd go to jail, not necessarily prison. They are two separate things.
This two words looked the same to me. English is not my native language so this forum is usefful for me to learning more about English... Thank you for the info.
(06-23-2015, 10:43 AM)irukandji Wrote: Secondly, she's being treated no differently than a person who, say accidentally kills someone with their car.
For the girl to be treated as some that kill by accident.... the system would have the info about her wesen condition... That is not the case... What would appear for the system is that she killed twos man. One is accident... But Two??? They could have used the self defense argue, what I believe is more close to the scenario... But this is another debate.
(06-23-2015, 10:43 AM)irukandji Wrote: What you're saying here is that this girl, because she is a wesen and the deaths were accidental, she is above the law.My intention is not to judge the girl. I used this sample to demonstrate that nick doesn't simply kill every wesen that came up in front of him. He tries to understand the context of that wesen prior to take a decision.
And if you really want to argue the point here, the same girl decided against a wesen procedure developed by her own kind so they wouldn't accidentally poison someone.
If we are going to judge the girl, maybe Nicks way of acting was not the most correctly one. But I see he tring do right thing... He is not perfect... no one is... there are mistakes... But nick lives in a context where he is forced to take this kind of decisions.
Aunt Marie told Nick something like to protect the god wesens... and punish the bad wesens... Grimm is about it... this is the show context... Nick HAS to decide who is good and who is bad.
(06-23-2015, 10:43 AM)irukandji Wrote: You said earlier Nick has more information than the average detective. It sounds like this information that he has is not beneficial to either him or the wesen.
If we look at the bigger picture... Nick has this informations because he is a grimm... Being a grimm ended up in all the Juliette plot. Do you think it is beneficial do Nick being a grimm?
(06-23-2015, 10:43 AM)irukandji Wrote: Not trying to be offensive here, believe me. But it wasn't so long ago you yourself proposed a fake scenario where Juliette lived and had to earn Monroe and Rosalee's friendship. The forum is full of lots of 'what if's". And this isn't exactly a "what if". Wu was the one who questioned it in the first place.
You are not being offensive... If any time I appeared to be offensive, please forgive me... This is not my intension never. Some times just typing is a hard to express exactly the idea we want.
About the "what if" thing... I belive that right and wrong are not relative... But people decisions are... because decisions are based on interpretation of realiaty (in this case, the reality inside the show)... Interpretation is based in meaning... Meaning depends completly on the context... I believe that judge a person decision, like we are doing with Nicks actions, without see the context is a bad way to judge actions and decisions.
As I like to use fake scenarios... Imagine that Nick simply follow the procedure... let's take the frog girl as an exemple.
He could simply wash his hands, give her to the system and not think about it. He would have no responsability on the system decision. But he knows the gril can't control her body... So he would be a coward not acting according to what he thinks is right.
He could send her to the system, but sending manipulate information to demonstrate that the girl was protecting herself or something like that. He would be someone that uses the system just to officialize his previous judgemente. Also not correct.
He could send her to the council and let the council decide... But whose procedures should Nick follow, the law system or the wesen council?
He assumes the responsability of knowing and decide based on that. His decisions sometimes are not the best... But he is not hiding himself from the responsability.