06-23-2015, 06:36 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-23-2015, 06:38 AM by Adriano Neres Rodrigues.)
(06-23-2015, 04:49 AM)irukandji Wrote:(06-22-2015, 11:17 PM)izzy Wrote: And this is different than how police normally operate how? In the past I trained Leos, have relatives, and close associates who are civilian law enforcement, all I can say is throwaways are not unknown and the brotherhood of the badge is strong. I understand why it is that way, but it is not right.
I laugh at the flagrant violation of rights on Grimm (i.e. no warrant, no probable cause, no true hot pursuit) but I do not find the cover-up mentality that unrealistic.
So with your background in law enforcement, would you classify yourself as corrupt? What about the Leos, relatives and close associates? Once cops become corrupt are they always corrupt?
I will play the devil's advocate here.
Let's consider that Nick trusts 100% of the law system. To the system work correctly the system needs as much information as possible to prove guilty or not guilty. Now let's take Sean and the Jack case. How would they give to the law system the info about the Jack possession? Without this information a supposed Sean judgment would be unfair doesn't matter the result.
As the system would not accept this info, they would need to create a like prove, a mean something like a psychological document saying Sean was not acting by him self. In this case the system would be being manipulate since the info they get is not the real one.
I remember an episode of a girl the were some kind of bat. In that episode Nick took the girl to the system. But the created some proves, like an instrument that creates an ultrasonic sound. If he didn't that the girl would get free.
Grimm is not a CSI show where they investigate the crimes until the last small prove. So in the world of Grimm I can't see they acting 100% in the system... Everyone would have to know about the weeks for this to work.
About Kenneth, Nick was not acting as a cop, so he can be blamed for acting out of the law. But I see the royals plot as a war. In this case they had a battle and Kenneth died in process. No need for law system.
For all of this I think is not fair with the show to want a 100% system trust simply because Grimm is not about it. It is out of the context. Grimm would be another show with another context for this to happen.
just to conclude, if we apply to others characters the same rule you want to apply to Nick and Grimm...
Batman is a rich man that takes justice is his own hands... He is jot a hero.
The same can be said about iron man...
Superman is not a cop... So he is not a hero also... Just an alien that see the human kind as a bunch of child that needs the protection of a stronger one.
I could write about others "pseudo-heros" that acts out of the system but inside their context things works.
(06-23-2015, 04:49 AM)irukandji Wrote:(06-22-2015, 11:17 PM)izzy Wrote: And this is different than how police normally operate how? In the past I trained Leos, have relatives, and close associates who are civilian law enforcement, all I can say is throwaways are not unknown and the brotherhood of the badge is strong. I understand why it is that way, but it is not right.
I laugh at the flagrant violation of rights on Grimm (i.e. no warrant, no probable cause, no true hot pursuit) but I do not find the cover-up mentality that unrealistic.
So with your background in law enforcement, would you classify yourself as corrupt? What about the Leos, relatives and close associates? Once cops become corrupt are they always corrupt?
I will play the devil's advocate here.
Let's consider that Nick trusts 100% of the law system. To the system work correctly the system needs as much information as possible to prove guilty or not guilty. Now let's take Sean and the Jack case. How would they give to the law system the info about the Jack possession? Without this information a supposed Sean judgment would be unfair doesn't matter the result.
As the system would not accept this info, they would need to create a like prove, a mean something like a psychological document saying Sean was not acting by him self. In this case the system would be being manipulate since the info they get is not the real one.
I remember an episode of a girl the were some kind of bat. In that episode Nick took the girl to the system. But the created some proves, like an instrument that creates an ultrasonic sound. If he didn't that the girl would get free.
Grimm is not a CSI show where they investigate the crimes until the last small prove. So in the world of Grimm I can't see they acting 100% in the system... Everyone would have to know about the weeks for this to work.
About Kenneth, Nick was not acting as a cop, so he can be blamed for acting out of the law. But I see the royals plot as a war. In this case they had a battle and Kenneth died in process. No need for law system.
For all of this I think is not fair with the show to want a 100% system trust simply because Grimm is not about it. It is out of the context. Grimm would be another show with another context for this to happen.
just to conclude, if we apply to others characters the same rule you want to apply to Nick and Grimm...
Batman is a rich man that takes justice is his own hands... He is jot a hero.
The same can be said about iron man...
Superman is not a cop... So he is not a hero also... Just an alien that see the human kind as a bunch of child that needs the protection of a stronger one.
I could write about others "pseudo-heros" that acts out of the system but inside their context things works.