(12-01-2018, 04:26 PM)irukandji Wrote:(12-01-2018, 04:01 PM)N_grimm Wrote:(12-01-2018, 03:45 PM)irukandji Wrote: Let me ask this instead before responding to your question. What is Z, in your opinion? To clarify, is he human? Immortal? Grimm? Hexenbiest/Zauerbiest? Wesen? Angel of God? Something else entirely?
Z is the devil or something similar. He was trapped in hell, needed a Grimm and the whole staff to get out and literally create hell on earth, and now he’s dead or at least still trapped somewhere.
You asked if I was implying that Nick came back through Z. To this, I reply, no way. He came back through a mirror, just like he did the first time.
I tend to think that Z is not a creature of the earth. As such, I think his body can be killed, but his essence will go on unless there's some way to kill the essence. Z showed he had power without the benefit of the completed staff. I don't think it's such a stretch to think he could construct a vortex which leads to his netherworld.
Quote:You claim Nick did something at this point to stop Z from getting the staff back? What did he do?
The only thing I saw was what we all saw, which was Nick desperately trying to maintain a hold of the staff. I assumed he did something to ensure he got back to the point in time where everyone was alive and well because in the end, everyone was alive and well. As to what Nick did in the time he went through the vortex until he came back through the mirror, it's anyone's guess.
We all agree that Nick came through the mirror on the "other side", but he was sucked into a vortex and if that was Z, as I think you are saying, then he entered the time tunnel through Z ..(which I don’t believe). You think Nick did something inside the vortex. I interpreted this as just a tunnel from one dimension to another, and that Z died when Nick stabbed him with the staff. I think Nick came true the mirror the second he disappeared into the vortex. There was a lot of strange things going on in that episode, I think we at least can agree about that.