(04-29-2018, 06:23 PM)Hell Rell Wrote:(04-29-2018, 03:44 PM)irukandji Wrote:(04-29-2018, 11:34 AM)Henry of green Wrote: You wrote above claiming nick didn't believe the situation with Julitte was that dangerous, that is against canon Nick directly told Juliette not to harm his baby and stood in her way defending the child therefore a dangerous sitution.
So then you're in essence stating Nick is a moron and left Adalind in the area while he dealt with this dangerous situation involving Juliette, is that it?
And when are you going to make up your mind about this situation? You said it was a potentially dangerous situation previously. Now it's been bumped up to a dangerous situation.
I often find that the show turns the characters into morons. Nick could've thought Juliette was extremely dangerous and handled it the exact same way although I don't believe he was really a moron in this case. He stood between Juliette and Adalind and for a brief moment physically restrained her which tells me that he thought the situation was dangerous and may get increasingly volatile without his intervention.
This reminds me of previous debates about Juliette's knowledge of what would happen to Kelly. One of the biggest debates, if not the biggest debate, in the history of the forum is whether Juliette knew Kelly would be killed or not. Her knowing Kelly would be killed makes her unbelievably malicious while her not knowing makes her unbelievably idiotic.
To be completely honest, I don't think Nick's actions at the precinct come close to that plot thread. Hell, Nick not requesting a pregnancy test makes him far dumber than anything he did at the precinct that day.
I don't think Nick considered the situation extremely dangerous. For Nick to do so, he would have had to have considered that *his* own life was being threatened by Juliette. I doubt he'd be standing in her way or restraining her if that was the case. Instead, he would have relied on his police training. He would enlisted Wu's help as well as the other policemen who were standing by. He would have drawn his gun for his own protection as well as Adalind's. Furthermore, he would have had Juliette properly restrained and placed once again in custody.
And for Adalind's great fear, she managed to disagree with Nick, when he refused Wu's help because "they were working something out". Adalind disagreed with Nick and then told Wu "we are not working anything out. She (Juliette) needs to leave".
Would she really tell someone that she was deathly afraid of to leave? I doubt it.
(04-29-2018, 11:12 AM)Zansy Wrote: And how would he know that that wouldn't instead trigger her to actually do something rash?
How did Nick know not to draw his gun in this case? How did Nick know that standing in Juliette's way would stop her from getting to Adalind? How did Nick know that he could grab Juliette's arm without her knocking him into the next year? How'd he know he wouldn't need Wu's assistance?
(04-29-2018, 11:12 AM)Zansy Wrote: If he had told Adalind to run... where to?
Wherever he felt she would be safe.
(04-29-2018, 11:12 AM)Zansy Wrote: And what would that be? She isn't listening when he tells her that he's not taking sides. And she's angry at the time, so reasoning with her seems unlikely, no matter what it is he wants her to hear.
What 'seems to be unlikely' is only in the eyes of the beholder. Nick's a cop with years of experience dealing with unreasonable people.
I'm curious. I take it you believe Nick should have simply shrugged his shoulders, given up, and excused himself out of the whole situation by stating he couldn't get through to her?
(04-29-2018, 11:12 AM)Zansy Wrote: But if he isn't even sure about the thing with Adalind by early season five, how can he have made the choice to allow her to become part of the Scoobies back at the Precinct?
What thing about Adalind? Certainly if Nick had misgivings about allowing her to become a Scooby, he wouldn't have waited until she was in labor, right?
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