07-23-2015, 02:54 AM
(07-22-2015, 04:40 PM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote:Thanks(07-17-2015, 08:59 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:There will not be revenge if Julette dies the secret of the pain sex dies with her..congrats on becoming a royal(07-16-2015, 05:40 PM)New Guy Wrote: Renard, Revelation and RevengeAgain a different way to look at Renard Nick relationship. I hadn't thought about Nick and Renard having any problems. It look to me that they were working together very well now I'll have to change and rethink this.
Hi Grimm Fans:
There has been much speculation about Nick’s “friendship” with Captain Sean Renard. Others believe Renard will be a mentor to Nick and the team. With “friends” like Renard, Nick doesn’t need enemies. Renard could mentor Nick how to be a self-serving, dishonest, ruthless criminal, but is that what Nick should become?
In the “Headache” episode, Nick, Hank and Wu seem to enjoy unloading a barrage of (rubber) bullets into Renard. Renard has betrayed them all; even endangering their lives if it would aid his schemes.
Renard’s rap sheet is extensive:
In 1.1, right out of the gate, Renard sent Adalind Schade to the hospital to kill Marie Kessler. Marie (a skilled Grimm) was Nick’s Aunt who raised him.
In 2.13, Renard stole a key from Nick’s desk in the PPD office.
He let Adalind cook up a hate sex relationship for him and Juliette. Nick was about to take care of business in the 2.13 “Face Off,” but Renard weasels out by returning the key.
In 4.17 “Hibernaculum” Renard could have told Juliette he was loyal to Nick and help her see Nick’s love for her. Instead, he joins her in some hate sex after Juliette promises “this will hurt.”
As JSGrimm45 noted, “Renard once asked Nick if he trusted him and Nick said about as much as you trust me.” Renard is a Royal, a viperous one that cannot be trusted.
The writers have indicated that season 5 will have Nick get his revenge. They are not specific about who, when, where or how Nick will get revenge. We do know that Kenneth murdered Kelly and fornicated with Juliette. Nick’s revenge for Kenneth came at an abandoned warehouse outside Portland. Nick and Kenneth meet face to face. Nick at first tries to question Kenneth, but when he's only met with taunts about his mother and Juliette, he turns to a more physical method of persuasion. As Wu and Hank listen along outside, Nick and Kenneth trade blows. In the end, Kenneth is no match for a vengeful Nick, who slides a blade from one of his Grimm weapons into Kenneth's throat and proclaims, "For my mother."
We know that Renard attempted to murder Marie and fornicated with Juliette. He has never shown any remorse to Nick any of his vile acts.
So Grimm fans, where, when and how will Nick implement revenge upon Renard?
New Guy
My question back to you will the writers put this in or will they drop it so as only the fans know this? If they put it in how would you see it going would see Nick getting revenge or would you see it as Nick doesn't need any more problems?
(07-17-2015, 08:59 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:There will not be revenge if Julette dies the secret of the pain sex dies with her..congrats on becoming a royal(07-16-2015, 05:40 PM)New Guy Wrote: Renard, Revelation and RevengeAgain a different way to look at Renard Nick relationship. I hadn't thought about Nick and Renard having any problems. It look to me that they were working together very well now I'll have to change and rethink this.
Hi Grimm Fans:
There has been much speculation about Nick’s “friendship” with Captain Sean Renard. Others believe Renard will be a mentor to Nick and the team. With “friends” like Renard, Nick doesn’t need enemies. Renard could mentor Nick how to be a self-serving, dishonest, ruthless criminal, but is that what Nick should become?
In the “Headache” episode, Nick, Hank and Wu seem to enjoy unloading a barrage of (rubber) bullets into Renard. Renard has betrayed them all; even endangering their lives if it would aid his schemes.
Renard’s rap sheet is extensive:
In 1.1, right out of the gate, Renard sent Adalind Schade to the hospital to kill Marie Kessler. Marie (a skilled Grimm) was Nick’s Aunt who raised him.
In 2.13, Renard stole a key from Nick’s desk in the PPD office.
He let Adalind cook up a hate sex relationship for him and Juliette. Nick was about to take care of business in the 2.13 “Face Off,” but Renard weasels out by returning the key.
In 4.17 “Hibernaculum” Renard could have told Juliette he was loyal to Nick and help her see Nick’s love for her. Instead, he joins her in some hate sex after Juliette promises “this will hurt.”
As JSGrimm45 noted, “Renard once asked Nick if he trusted him and Nick said about as much as you trust me.” Renard is a Royal, a viperous one that cannot be trusted.
The writers have indicated that season 5 will have Nick get his revenge. They are not specific about who, when, where or how Nick will get revenge. We do know that Kenneth murdered Kelly and fornicated with Juliette. Nick’s revenge for Kenneth came at an abandoned warehouse outside Portland. Nick and Kenneth meet face to face. Nick at first tries to question Kenneth, but when he's only met with taunts about his mother and Juliette, he turns to a more physical method of persuasion. As Wu and Hank listen along outside, Nick and Kenneth trade blows. In the end, Kenneth is no match for a vengeful Nick, who slides a blade from one of his Grimm weapons into Kenneth's throat and proclaims, "For my mother."
We know that Renard attempted to murder Marie and fornicated with Juliette. He has never shown any remorse to Nick any of his vile acts.
So Grimm fans, where, when and how will Nick implement revenge upon Renard?
New Guy
My question back to you will the writers put this in or will they drop it so as only the fans know this? If they put it in how would you see it going would see Nick getting revenge or would you see it as Nick doesn't need any more problems?
(07-17-2015, 08:59 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:There will not be revenge if Julette dies the secret of the pain sex dies with her..congrats on becoming a royal(07-16-2015, 05:40 PM)New Guy Wrote: Renard, Revelation and RevengeAgain a different way to look at Renard Nick relationship. I hadn't thought about Nick and Renard having any problems. It look to me that they were working together very well now I'll have to change and rethink this.
Hi Grimm Fans:
There has been much speculation about Nick’s “friendship” with Captain Sean Renard. Others believe Renard will be a mentor to Nick and the team. With “friends” like Renard, Nick doesn’t need enemies. Renard could mentor Nick how to be a self-serving, dishonest, ruthless criminal, but is that what Nick should become?
In the “Headache” episode, Nick, Hank and Wu seem to enjoy unloading a barrage of (rubber) bullets into Renard. Renard has betrayed them all; even endangering their lives if it would aid his schemes.
Renard’s rap sheet is extensive:
In 1.1, right out of the gate, Renard sent Adalind Schade to the hospital to kill Marie Kessler. Marie (a skilled Grimm) was Nick’s Aunt who raised him.
In 2.13, Renard stole a key from Nick’s desk in the PPD office.
He let Adalind cook up a hate sex relationship for him and Juliette. Nick was about to take care of business in the 2.13 “Face Off,” but Renard weasels out by returning the key.
In 4.17 “Hibernaculum” Renard could have told Juliette he was loyal to Nick and help her see Nick’s love for her. Instead, he joins her in some hate sex after Juliette promises “this will hurt.”
As JSGrimm45 noted, “Renard once asked Nick if he trusted him and Nick said about as much as you trust me.” Renard is a Royal, a viperous one that cannot be trusted.
The writers have indicated that season 5 will have Nick get his revenge. They are not specific about who, when, where or how Nick will get revenge. We do know that Kenneth murdered Kelly and fornicated with Juliette. Nick’s revenge for Kenneth came at an abandoned warehouse outside Portland. Nick and Kenneth meet face to face. Nick at first tries to question Kenneth, but when he's only met with taunts about his mother and Juliette, he turns to a more physical method of persuasion. As Wu and Hank listen along outside, Nick and Kenneth trade blows. In the end, Kenneth is no match for a vengeful Nick, who slides a blade from one of his Grimm weapons into Kenneth's throat and proclaims, "For my mother."
We know that Renard attempted to murder Marie and fornicated with Juliette. He has never shown any remorse to Nick any of his vile acts.
So Grimm fans, where, when and how will Nick implement revenge upon Renard?
New Guy
My question back to you will the writers put this in or will they drop it so as only the fans know this? If they put it in how would you see it going would see Nick getting revenge or would you see it as Nick doesn't need any more problems?