04-01-2017, 09:55 PM
Nick was always the scoobies' "field commander." Everything was on equal footing until it was time to draw weapons. This probably has more to do with whose name is first on the opening credits than anything else.
04-01-2017, 09:55 PM
Nick was always the scoobies' "field commander." Everything was on equal footing until it was time to draw weapons. This probably has more to do with whose name is first on the opening credits than anything else.
04-02-2017, 03:01 AM
(04-01-2017, 09:39 PM)MANTItotheCore Wrote:(04-01-2017, 09:16 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: In families where exes are involved, if moms and dads want things to work out, they do whatever helps the kids feel comfortable. If Diana tells Adalind that that Nick's mom was her "other Mommy," even though Kelly Burkhardt ran off with her daughter, Adalind will smile and say, "yes, honey, she was." If Kelly starts calling Sean "Uncle Sean," Nick won't object. And if Diana one day smiles and tells Sean, "now that Mommy and Nick are married Nick is my other Daddy," Sean will smile and say, "that's great." He may not actually like it, but he'll keep that to himself. Especially if he wants to gain acceptance from the extended scooby family. Since the "the End" was partly like a dream for Nick why would him being in charge of his friends be a surprise?
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.
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04-02-2017, 11:41 AM
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(04-02-2017, 03:01 AM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote:(04-01-2017, 09:39 PM)MANTItotheCore Wrote:(04-01-2017, 09:16 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: In families where exes are involved, if moms and dads want things to work out, they do whatever helps the kids feel comfortable. If Diana tells Adalind that that Nick's mom was her "other Mommy," even though Kelly Burkhardt ran off with her daughter, Adalind will smile and say, "yes, honey, she was." If Kelly starts calling Sean "Uncle Sean," Nick won't object. And if Diana one day smiles and tells Sean, "now that Mommy and Nick are married Nick is my other Daddy," Sean will smile and say, "that's great." He may not actually like it, but he'll keep that to himself. Especially if he wants to gain acceptance from the extended scooby family. First, I'm not sure exactly what the heck "The End" was. Second, I wasn't really surprised, but more just pointing out how everyone just started following Nick. Monroe and Rosalee were much more knowledgeable about every thing wesen. Renard is a Royal Prince. Of course, the show was called Grimm, as Face pointed out, so... ![]()
04-02-2017, 01:30 PM
Monroe and Rosalee had a lot of technical knowledge, but not any tactical. Renard is a prince, but royalty doesn't confer any competence in a fight, either. Grimm aside, Nick was the only one with any real and recent experience.
From my POV, the biggest WTF moment was Hank's death in the previous episode. Wu, I can let pass, he went Neanderthal and that messes with the common sense, but Hank should've been smarter than to blow up, empty his gun and then try to beat Z with it. With all the power in that staff, there should have been some way to have Hank not lose his cool and still get killed.
04-02-2017, 03:14 PM
Hank's death was definitely the worst one. That went beyond stupidity. He walk's closer and closer as US's firing and when that has no effect decides to try and beat Zerstorer with the gun. That was low even for this show.
04-02-2017, 03:14 PM
Hank and Wu dieing at the same time was dumb.
12-12-2017, 06:56 PM
(04-01-2017, 12:07 AM)syscrash Wrote: Also why did they wait 20 years to make the entry in the book. Was it a story that Nick keep to himself. Was he not able to tell them that they had all died. He was afraid of their reactions of knowing if he had not won the fight they would all still be dead. He did not want them all feeling they owed him their lives. I was reading some threads last night and came across this one. You raise some interesting thoughts here. For instance, I wondered why Kelly was the one to tell this story rather than Diana.
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12-13-2017, 05:31 AM
I think in that moment, Nick couldn't really say anything specific about what he went through. He was still in shock. His jubilant expressions of shock/joy at each one being alive is very telling that for whatever period they were "dead" in this "other" place. They may not know the specifics but they have some idea that something happened and clearly Nick didn't remain tight lipped because twenty years later Kelly's recounting the story in one of the Grimm books.
Diana can't exactly write in the books which is what Kelly was doing. She's a hexenbiest, not a Grimm. I assume Kelly is a Grimm, writing about how Grimm saved the day as told to him by his father. I'm sure Diana's told the story/corroborated everything Nick said about the events of the "other" side at least once/plenty of times after the last episode, it's just not for her to update the Grimm books.
12-13-2017, 05:41 AM
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The runners of the Grimm wikisite asked one of the Grimm writers over grimm wiki twitter account if Kelly was a grimm at the end and they responded back saying only grimms can write in the Grimm books so off course Kelly is a grimm. So I assume Diania is not writing in the book is beacuse she’s not a grimm like Kelly and nick. I don’t recall any one on the show other than a grimm writing in the grimm books so it’s pretty obvious why Kelly is writing in the book instead of Diania.
The twitter exchange between grimm wiki site runner and Grimm writer is posted below as is Kelly grimm wiki page. http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Kelly_Schade...mation.png http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Kelly_Schade-Burkhardt
I think making Diana an über hexenbiest baby jumped the shark considering it actually served little purpose to the overall arc. They dabbled a bit in showing her use her powers here and there but in truth it was all unnecessary. Saying that her natural level powers were present from birth would have been enough if being the spawn of a Hexenbiest and a (half) Zauberbiest was truly special. All wesen get their powers at puberty, saying Diana developed them at conception without any further embellishment from the writers' end could have kept things acceptable within reasonable plausibility of the show's narrative. I think this may explain why Kelly also became a Grimm a good decade before Nick other possible male Grimms did, the Hexenbiest DNA coupled with another unique DNA (Zauberbiest/Grimm) causes abilities to sprout much sooner than expected.
This isn't a strictly jump the shark moment but it may apply to Juliette's Hexenbiest powers and how the show dealt with her transition. They could have gone without saying she's also extremely powerful had they probably should have tied it back to her increasingly volatile emotional state giving her an edge over a regular born Hexenbiest who has had years of control and thus their Hexenbiest is "tamed" by comparison. They could have used the amnesia/love obsession plot to start chipping away at Juliette's emotional state of being with a Grimm piece by piece, thus keeping it on the viewer's periphery that Juliette was 100% about her life with Nick so when the last quarter of S4 happened and she "snapped", it wouldn't come as a shock or as an out-of-nowhere gimmick. If there's a symbiotic relationship between a natural host and the Hexenbiest, the relationship should initially be parasitic with a made Hexenbiest as it fed on her extremely negative emotions, at least until the host learnt control. It would have been better to have Henrietta help Juliette come to her senses when she was at her worst than for Meisner to "create" Eve. |
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