(04-30-2018, 10:46 AM)Zansy Wrote: But if he isn't even sure about the thing with Adalind by early season five, how can he have made the choice to allow her to become part of the Scoobies back at the Precinct?
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What thing about Adalind? Certainly if Nick had misgivings about allowing her to become a Scooby, he wouldn't have waited until she was in labor, right?
(04-30-2018, 10:46 AM)Zansy Wrote: Please explain to me why he would make the choice to make her a Scooby? I honestly don't understand where you are getting that impression from canon. In my mind he's enlisted Adalind's help to try find a way to make things better for Juliette. And she randomly manages to point them in the right direction on how to help Sean. I don't see that idea go beyond that at that point. And I do not understand where you get that idea.
The only thing that would possibly make sense for me in that direction would be if somehow feeling Kelly kick had made him want to be a dad and that could possibly motivate him to bring her into the fold for any reason other than trying to get her to help Juliette. But if he did it for that reason, he'd be sure about wanting to be Kelly's dad by 5.01.
Well now, let's go back here. I asked a question and I don't see an answer. If I missed it, please point it out to me.
What thing about Adalind are you referring to?
(04-30-2018, 10:46 AM)Zansy Wrote:(04-29-2018, 08:19 PM)irukandji Wrote:(04-29-2018, 11:12 AM)Zansy Wrote: And how would he know that that wouldn't instead trigger her to actually do something rash?
How did Nick know not to draw his gun in this case? How did Nick know that standing in Juliette's way would stop her from getting to Adalind? How did Nick know that he could grab Juliette's arm without her knocking him into the next year? How'd he know he wouldn't need Wu's assistance?
Because as a rule of thumb most people react better if you do not threaten them? Taking her arm is establishing a physical connection between them. That isn't a threat. Drawing a gun would be, as would asking other cops to rush in on the scene to escalate the situation. He is trying not to treat her as a criminal because that's his best hope not to have her react like a criminal.
Are you talking about when Nick took Juliette's arm?
(04-30-2018, 10:46 AM)Zansy Wrote:(04-29-2018, 08:19 PM)irukandji Wrote:Where? You cannot suggest that Nick is risking Adalind's and baby's safety and not suggest a safer place he could've send her to. Nick doesn't ask Adalind to go elsewhere. And Adalind doesn't try to run anywhere either. So clearly they both assume that where she is is her best bet to get through this situation somehow. If either of them could think of a safer place she could reach I rather doubt Nick would've taken the gamble to keep her where she is, even if it is, as you claim, not a dangerous situation.(04-29-2018, 11:12 AM)Zansy Wrote: [If he had told Adalind to run... where to?
Wherever he felt she would be safe.
Everyone who's posting clearly feels this was a dangerous situation, even with Nick standing by. I haven't read one post from anyone saying the situation was calmed down simply because he was there. Even you. So why is it you feel she's so much safer at Nick's side?
(04-30-2018, 10:46 AM)Zansy Wrote: So Nick’s telling Juliette that he would be willing to try and understand who she is as a Hexenbiest and she turns him down. So he says he won’t give up on trying to find a cure. And when he finds the next best thing, he takes that opportunity. - Tell me how he is choosing Adalind over Juliette? Or what he could’ve said other than “hey I found something you could still try”? He’s tried talking to Juliette about this. You can’t just ignore his earlier attempts to reason with her by this point. But she tells him there’s nothing he can do or say. And he still doesn’t give up. Juliette’s the one who’s had sex with Sean and already started considering to become Kenneth’s ally. So why do you accuse Nick of not trying hard enough to talk to her? - By this point Juliette should be the one doing the talking. Not the accusing. Nick is telling her that he doesn't want her to kill an innocent baby and she's mad at him for "choosing Adalind". Juliette's slept with Sean. (We remember 4.17?) Completely out of her free will, no spells that time. Not that Sleeping Beauty spell that made them fall for each other big time. And not Sean looking like Nick either. But she's the one who's angry at Nick because he won't step aside to let her "rip the little bitch's throat out".
So when Juliette stated in the spice shop (and I am paraphrasing here) that she liked who she was and Nick replied something to the effect of, "We don't", was that really a show of evidence that he was willing to try and understand Juliette as a hexenbiest?
Where in all of this did he unequivocably state that he would accept Juliette no matter what? And why when she accused him of choosing Adalind over her, didn't he prove to her that she was wrong?
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