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RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - irukandji - 01-13-2018
(01-13-2018, 09:13 AM)Robyn Wrote: Considering that many Wesen were successfully arrested and convicted by human cops, it’s reasonable to assume Nick and Hank made some of those arrests before Nick became a Grimm. How did they and the other cops deal with the bizarre details when writing up their reports? Did Renard accept those reports as written or tell the arresting officers to remove entries that might make the DA & jury question their sanity? The show didn’t worry with explaining real life quandaries that might come up because it’s central character was a Grimm detective arresting or killing Wesen.
Probably because of the one silly thing that makes no sense in the series and that's the invisible woge. Wesen may have woged out of surprise or fear, but human and wesen cops would have never been able to see it. I'm sure there were wesen who hightailed it just as humans do, but there's no fear of a grimm around. Some might have fought, even been killed, but the incidence of kills was nothing like Nick's after becoming a grimm. I think most wesen and humans would figure they were outnumbered, they wanted to live to see another day, so they gave up without incident.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-13-2018
Some wesen were apparently willing to risk the wrath of the WC and attack on realizing they were facing a grimm. Like all the ones who tried to kill Trubel before she met the scoobies, and she wasn't a cop or a wesen hunter at the time.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - irukandji - 01-14-2018
(01-13-2018, 09:33 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Some wesen were apparently willing to risk the wrath of the WC and attack on realizing they were facing a grimm. Like all the ones who tried to kill Trubel before she met the scoobies, and she wasn't a cop or a wesen hunter at the time.
I suspect more of that was due to G&K wanting to show just how a poor grimm would deal with the hardships of not knowing she was a grimm. To be honest, that whole backstory of Trubel was a really hard one for me to buy, especially with the history they gave her. With that background, she wouldn't have grown up clueless.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2018
What's hard to buy was that Truble knew her real name and we found out later that Nebojsa was keeping track of all the grimms. Somebody should have noticed when her parents suffered whatever fate put her in the foster system and come and gotten her.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - Robyn - 01-14-2018
(01-13-2018, 06:40 PM)irukandji Wrote: Probably because of the one silly thing that makes no sense in the series and that's the invisible woge. Wesen may have woged out of surprise or fear, but human and wesen cops would have never been able to see it. I'm sure there were wesen who hightailed it just as humans do, but there's no fear of a grimm around. Some might have fought, even been killed, but the incidence of kills was nothing like Nick's after becoming a grimm. I think most wesen and humans would figure they were outnumbered, they wanted to live to see another day, so they gave up without incident.True, but there were Wesen Nick encountered who were so deadly they had to be killed because even when possible for Nick to subdue and arrest them, incarceration wasn’t an option. I don’t know how many Nick encountered over six seasons, but it seems like enough to assume human cops also encountered them and ended up dead or provided bizarre descriptions of their encounters. Either way, there would have been bizarre homicides and reports that left the police scratching their heads.
The WoW in S6E9 would have been such a case. Had Nick not been a Grimm, how would he and Hank have written up their attack by a tree? Would Renard have allowed such a report to be filed or changed it to an acceptable version of events? And what about precincts that didn't have a Zauberbiest police captain who understood why certain cases were so bizarre?
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2018
If Nick hadn't been a grimm, or if he hadn't had the friends he had, nobody would have even suspected that the tree was responsible and the missing people would have remained unsolved missing people.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - Robyn - 01-14-2018
Okay, then for the story to work, either the tree just began killing or there’s been years of unexplained deaths in that area that police chalked up to wild animal attacks and random abductions/murders. And, family members didn’t make enough noise about their loved ones missing or murdered that forced the police to respond proactively.
Even if Nick or Hank couldn’t see the tree actually attack and kill the other, the survivor would know his partner was killed while investigating the crime scene but be unable to explain how it happened. I don’t see that as acceptable in a report - unless his captain is a Wesen who tweaks the report and cautions the surviving officer of the personal & career risk of further investigation.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2018
In the case of the two hunters, there's a good chance the survivor would have spent the rest of his life being the prime suspect in his buddy's unsolved disappearance.
About 1/3 of all homicides in the US go unsolved. As of 2016, Portland has 225 cold cases on its books, 22 of which are missing persons.
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - Robyn - 01-14-2018
Real life unsolved cases aren’t going to have police officer or witness statements of what appeared to be a man striking a victim whose injuries resemble being sliced up by sharp claws, or what appeared to be a man striking a victim with enough deadly force to hurl him ten feet. At some point, the police and local government are going to question the number of insane police and witness statements, or they’re going to tweak reports and look the other way.
Renard said most violent crimes in Portland were committed by Wesen. Solving most WoW episodes required Nick, Hank, Monroe, and Rosalee. So it stands to reason that before Nick became a Grimm, the number of unsolved crimes far exceeded an acceptable average. If there wasn’t a significant number of unsolvable and/or strange crimes/deaths to arouse suspicion and/or panic, how much of a difference did Nick being a Grimm make?
RE: Who is the worst most corrupt cop on Grimm - FaceInTheCrowd - 01-14-2018
I'd say not much at all, if the first clue Chavez and HW had that there was a grimm (actually, two grimms once Trubel came on the scene) in Portland was when Chavez saw one of the grimm books in Trubel's room.
If HW had been anything like an effective covert agency, the moment Renard declared himself a candidate, he would've gotten a midnight visit from a bunch of commandos informing him that they knew all about him and BC and if he didn't want to end up getting disappeared and renditioned to Gitmo or some secret third world ally to spend the rest of his life in a world of hurt he was now HW's inside man in BC.