(12-31-2017, 09:36 AM)irukandji Wrote: Robyn, I believe you're thinking of something else here. What I was saying is that Nick and Adalind never really had any fun together, which is something else altogether. I never saw Adalind surprise Nick with a gift. She was just always there.

Nick never once suggested that the two of them go out alone for a night on the town. It seemed like whenever they were outside the fome, they were with the scoobies. They didn't ever seem to have fun interacting with one another. That, to me, would have gone a long way toward establishing a special bond to show that they cared enough for one another to let their guard down. In other words, that they were revealing another side of themselves to each other.

Juliette apparently wore that dress as part of a night on the town, which suggests to me that she and Nick had fun with one another. It had nothing to do with reminiscing about Nick's past with Adalind. It had to do with Nick changing the present with Adalind.

I personally don't care to compare the two relationships. They are not the same. The creators put Nick and Adalind together. Their relationship should stand for more than just a child they had in common and a romp in bed every now and then.

(12-31-2017, 10:17 AM)Robyn Wrote: The length of their actual relationship restricts what they did in current time and past events available for recollection. The last half of S5 focused on Nick’s distrust of Adalind and his uncertainty of them ever being more than parenting partners. Adalind’s desperation for them to be in a committed relationship didn’t create an actual relationship, committed or casual. At best, they had an agreement to act in the best interest of their child. There’s really not much for them to share with one another as a couple if their not yet a couple.

Nick and Juliette were on favorable ground as of the first date, so they accumulated fond memories over the years. But once Nick became a Grimm, Nick/Juliette took a slow ride downhill and weren’t creating as many fond memories. Like Nick/Adalind in S5 - S6, Nick/Juliette in S1-S4 mostly centered around Grimm duties and interaction with other Team Grimm members. When joining Monroe & Rosalee for a birthday celebration in S6, Nick/Adalind more or less behaved the way Nick/Juliette would have in the same situation. Nick/Juliette may have experienced more intimate moments, but they were in an intimate relationship for a longer period of time.

(12-31-2017, 10:49 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: She was doing laundry on the morning they'd decided not to be in front of mirrors on their own and wasn't put off by it.

(12-31-2017, 10:49 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: Nothing prevents Nick from telling her again that he loves her. He knows he's said it before so nothing is standing in his way to do it again so I don't think it's that big a deal that the staff oddly folded the past (coming back through the mirror the first time) and present (Zerstörer's death, Bonaparte's ring gone) together.

(12-31-2017, 10:45 AM)Henry of green Wrote: How did nick take it all away , Nick was shocked when the staff dragged him through the portal he had no idea what was going on. Plus do you you know for a fact the staff took it all away it’s up in the air what the staff took away and what it didn’t Adalinds ring remained gone so who’s to say some of the moments the charecters shared didn’t also remian.

(12-31-2017, 11:39 AM)Henry of green Wrote: Nick didn’t reverse telling Adalind he loves her he picked up the staff to revive his friends as zorstorer did to Trubel, Nick told Trubel this before picking it up To revive them. The staff dragged then him through the mirror when zorster dissapeard, Nick didn’t have a clue what was going on that’s why he was shocked when he came through the mirror and was so surprised his friends were back again till were they started . The ring being gone means not everything that happened in the other time was reversed some other things could have remained.

(12-31-2017, 11:59 AM)Henry of green Wrote: So you say, if the ring remained gone the I love you could also remain.

(12-31-2017, 10:34 AM)irukandji Wrote: The creative team got past the length of their relationship by doing two things. First they had Nick take Adalind and baby under his wing. Second, Adalind apologized for what she'd done. I liked the awkwardness of their relationship, but it never seemed to me that that awkwardness never completely dissolved. If it had, Nick wouldn't have waited until the final episodes to tell Adalind he loved her, then take it all away with a swish of reversed time.

It doesn't even have to be fun. They could have a few spats. Awkwardness would certainly lead to that. For instance, does Adalind straighten up the fome? Does she ever get tired up picking up Nick's tidy whiteys?

I've seen posters simply take these sex scenes and doting over the baby as proof positive of a strong and healthy relationship between Nick and Adalind. Whatever works, but to me, neither one ever really revealed their true selves.

(12-31-2017, 12:07 PM)Henry of green Wrote: You didn’t undstand me agian, you are making out like it’s 100 percent fact that the I love dissapeard when it’s not if the ring remained gone from the other timeline who’s is to say the I love you didn’t remain also in the new time line.