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RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - Hell Rell - 12-26-2017
Nick and Adalind were clearly going to have a lot of fun in Blind Love until everyone but Rosalee had their drinks spiked. It looked like they were having fun for the entire time prior to that and they probably had fun after that as well. All of the fun just got interrupted similar to how Nick and Juliette's weekend getaway got derailed in season 1.
I really don't like discussing things when it concerns shipping so I'll just discuss what I saw. There were some funny moments between Nick and Adalind even though they were brief. They looked pretty happy when Nick told her he thought he would go crazy without her. There was also the scene where Adalind was standing beside him as he was about to shave but she made that quip about him looking good with a bit of stubble.
The final few episodes were about Zerstorer which included Juliette going into the mirror world and what part Diana played in this whole thing. Diana being in danger was going to prevent them from having any fun and they weren't going to have a moment's peace until they got Juliette back and Zerstorer was dealt with once and for all.
As far as season 5 goes, they weren't really in a relationship and had to adjust to their new reality. I think Renard informed Adalind about Diana not too long after Nick returned from Germany so that would make it difficult for any fun to take place because she couldn't take her mind off Diana.
As Rpmaluki said, Nick's relationships with Adalind and Juliette were completely different with a completely different with a circumstances. Them having a child together alone would cause a lot of differences without considering their history.
Ultimately, Nick once loved Juliette and she loved him back but he now loves Adalind's and it's reciprocated. Some people may find it difficult to imagine them having fun in the next 20 years but I find it harder to believe they didn't since the epilogue was clearly intended to show a very happy ending.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - rpmaluki - 12-26-2017
Nick remembered saying ILY and viewers know he said it. Adalind will get another chance to hear it for the first time so it doesn't really matter that everything was reversed since we know they are together after twenty years.
Nick and Adalind's relationship isn't smooth sailing from the moment they both realise they've entertained thoughts of kissing one another, nor are their feelings free to bloom unhindered without any drama once things intensify. They didn't openly trust one another and then there was BC to deal with. And only between that and Zerstörer is their relationship even deserving to be called that but the show was drowning in WotW episodes and they didn't leave room for showing Nick and Adalind as a normal couple beyond the perfunctory until the big ILY scene and Nick desperately wanting Adalind back after she died in his arms.
They simply didn't have screen time dedicated to exploring their budding relationship. We saw them struggle in S5 and that eroded away off screen in S6.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - irukandji - 12-26-2017
(12-26-2017, 09:40 AM)Henry of green Wrote: Irk, most reviewers actually found the nick and Adalind I love you scene heartwarming as did I clearly you didn’t which is fine your entitled to your opinion so I am not going to argue with you on that. Also whether or not the I love you scene was reversed is very much up for debate because some things like Adalinds ring still being gone indicate not everything was reversed therefore the I love you wasn’t ethier. Plus the main thing was for the fans to hear Nick admit his love out loud and he did. Plus G&k have said everything envovling Zerstorer and the deaths did happen it’s real so the I love you did happen just like the deaths and that’s all that really matters.
There's no doubt in my mind that there were viewers who were fine with Nick's confession of love, henry. But there were viewers who were equally disappointed with it. I remember reading posts about it, not only on this forum but others as well.
I didn't find it heartwarming, but then the circumstances in which he said it were not heartwarming. I just expected more than what I saw, and then having it all taken away because of the time change just didn't make it very memorable, in my opinion.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - Henry of green - 12-26-2017
Irk, I was just saying many tv reviewers thougth the scene was touching as did I but I totally agree for you to dislike it and have no problem admitting it might not be to some viewers tastes.
I remember reading this review at the time at the A.V. club and thought the reviewer done a great job of explaining the scene and Nick and Adalinds relationship because that’s pretty much how I feel about thier relationship.
Review piece below
Adalind and Nick have their emotional “I love you” moment in the shadow of Diana’s sanctuary, the cabin where Nick wrapped up his first wesen case. I know there’s some lingering dislike of this relationship over the body-swapped sexual encounter in the season three, but I’ll be damned if I wasn’t genuinely moved and rooting “Say it, you fool!” up to the big moment. Julievette repeatedly says that none of them are the same any more, and this relationship is organic proof of it, one-time enemies left broken by the battles and somehow finding a refuge in each other.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - rpmaluki - 12-26-2017
One thing is certain, not everything is to everyone's taste. We're not compelled to like the same things, there'd be no fun in that. I loved Nick's ILY, although it was late in coming. The actors sold me on Nick and Adalind. They had very little to work with in terms of their relationship from the writer's pen but it made the biggest impact for me. Of all the relationships on the show, I was most interested in seeing them grow despite Monroe and Rosalee being written fairly well by comparison.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - Henry of green - 12-26-2017
I also find it rather interesting because I agree Monroe and Rosalees relationship was better written and Monroe is one of my favorite characters, though I like you had very little interest in thier relationship. I got fully interested Nick and Adalind and thier relationship despite some problems with the writing and that is solely due to the chemistry I felt between the actors. Claire In particular done a very realistic job of showing a woman in love imo, I believed her love for Nick fully beacuse of Claire’s expressions as Adalind towards Nick sold it to me.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - rpmaluki - 12-26-2017
I do think Claire played a woman in love with Nick far better than Elizabeth/Bitsie ever did between S1 and S4.
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - New Guy - 12-26-2017
Hi Forum,
According to http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt, Adalind tells Nick "I love you" the first time in 5.11, "Key Move":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIIsaAE0qzg
The Grimm.Wiki transcript reads:
Quote:Adalind: I know I can't keep you from going. It's something you have to do. But I also know there's a chance that you won't come back.Later in Germany:
Nick: Adalind—
Adalind: And I can't let you go without you knowing how I feel about you. [She and Nick kiss, and she unbuttons Nick's shirt] And I don't care if this is a mistake. I love you. [She and Nick start kissing and they both take their shirts off and lay down, making out]
Quote:Nick: I slept with Adalind.Nick told Monroe he didn't know if he was in love with Adalind. So why did he think should tell Monroe he "slept" with her?
Monroe: What?
Nick: I just thought I should tell you.
Monroe: Okay. I mean, it's not like you haven't slept with her before, but this time you, like, actually knew it was her. So that probably made it different. I mean, did it?
Nick: The first time I slept with Adalind I thought it was Juliette, and when I slept with Adalind the other time, it actually was Juliette, and this time I was with the mother of my child. So, yeah, I would say it was very different. She's changed so much.
Monroe: Oh, yeah, she has. I just hope she stays that way. Do you think you're in love with her?
Nick: I don't know.
From the Grimm.Wiki Synopsis:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt
[Bolding added]
Quote:When Nick was about to go face Zerstörer, Adalind went up to him and told him to be careful. They kissed, and for the first time, Nick told her he loved her. ("Zerstörer Shrugged")When do you suppose Nick realized he was in love with Adalind? Did he not "love" her until 6.12 or was he waiting for a special romantic moment?
By the final scene do you suppose they were Married?
How many Forum Members recall the playground rhyme:
Adalind and Nick, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First comes love, then comes marriage,
then comes Nick with a baby carriage.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/06/for_millennials_out_of_wedlock_childbirth_is_the_norm_now_what.html
Quote:In a study tracking the first wave of millennials to become parents, a team from Johns Hopkins University recently found that 64 percent of mothers gave birth at least once out of wedlock. Almost one-half had all of their children without ever exchanging vows.
Based on personal experience and the statistical evidence, I recommend the event ordering love>marriage>babies.
Best!
N G
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - Henry of green - 12-26-2017
(12-26-2017, 01:43 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hi Forum,
According to http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt, Adalind tells Nick "I love you" the first time in 5.11, "Key Move":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIIsaAE0qzg
The Grimm.Wiki transcript reads:
Quote:Adalind: I know I can't keep you from going. It's something you have to do. But I also know there's a chance that you won't come back.Later in Germany:
Nick: Adalind—
Adalind: And I can't let you go without you knowing how I feel about you. [She and Nick kiss, and she unbuttons Nick's shirt] And I don't care if this is a mistake. I love you. [She and Nick start kissing and they both take their shirts off and lay down, making out]
Quote:Nick: I slept with Adalind.Nick told Monroe he didn't know if he was in love with Adalind. So why did he think should tell Monroe he "slept" with her?
Monroe: What?
Nick: I just thought I should tell you.
Monroe: Okay. I mean, it's not like you haven't slept with her before, but this time you, like, actually knew it was her. So that probably made it different. I mean, did it?
Nick: The first time I slept with Adalind I thought it was Juliette, and when I slept with Adalind the other time, it actually was Juliette, and this time I was with the mother of my child. So, yeah, I would say it was very different. She's changed so much.
Monroe: Oh, yeah, she has. I just hope she stays that way. Do you think you're in love with her?
Nick: I don't know.
From the Grimm.Wiki Synopsis:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt
[Bolding added]
Quote:When Nick was about to go face Zerstörer, Adalind went up to him and told him to be careful. They kissed, and for the first time, Nick told her he loved her. ("Zerstörer Shrugged")When do you suppose Nick realized he was in love with Adalind? Did he not "love" her until 6.12 or was he waiting for a special romantic moment?
By the final scene do you suppose they were Married?
How many Forum Members recall the playground rhyme:
Adalind and Nick, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First comes love, then comes marriage,
then comes Nick with a baby carriage.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/06/for_millennials_out_of_wedlock_childbirth_is_the_norm_now_what.html
Quote:In a study tracking the first wave of millennials to become parents, a team from Johns Hopkins University recently found that 64 percent of mothers gave birth at least once out of wedlock. Almost one-half had all of their children without ever exchanging vows.
Based on personal experience and the statistical evidence, I recommend the event ordering love>marriage>babies.
Best!
N G
New guy below is script of Eve telling Nick she can feel his love for Adalind In 6x03.
You love Adalind.
Why are you asking? I'm not.
I can feel it.
Below this is Nicks relationship status at the end of the series on Grimm Wikipedia they have Adalind as his wife because of G&k post mortum interviews stating they were still togther after 20 years. So it’s hinted that they may have married they are definitely together according to G&K and how the show ended, but really it’s up to you decide if you agree with grimm wiki that they married.
Adalind Schade, wife
Kelly Schade-Burkhardt, son
Diana Schade-Renard, stepdaughter
Dead Reed Burkhardt, father
Dead Kelly Burkhardt, mother
Dead Marie Kessler, aunt
Dead Walter Kessler, grandfather
Theresa Rubel, third cousin
Dead George, uncle
Dead Hilda, great-great-grandmother
Juliette Silverton, ex-girlfriend
Hank Griffin, partner and close friend
Monroe, friend
Rosalee Calvert, friend
Drew Wu, friend
Bud Wurstner, friend
Eve, friend
Josh Porter, friend
Dead Martin Meisner, acquaintance
Status:Living
Job: Police Detective
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt
Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk...ode=s06e03
RE: Why Nick and Adalind clicked - New Guy - 12-26-2017
(12-26-2017, 02:38 PM)Henry of green Wrote: Below this is Nicks relationship status at the end of the series on Grimm Wikipedia they have Adalind as his wife because of G&k post mortum interviews stating they were still togther after 20 years. So it’s hinted that they may have married they are definitely together according to G&K and how the show ended, but really it’s up to you decide if you agree with grimm wiki that they married.Hi Henry,
Adalind Schade, wife
Kelly Schade-Burkhardt, son
Diana Schade-Renard, stepdaughter
. . .
Status:Living
Job: Police Detective
. . .
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt
Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk...ode=s06e03
Another great post! I would hope that they married, however I know couples who shack up for years, have kids, do PTA and everything, but did not get married.
At what point do you suppose Nick realized he was in love with Adalind?
N G