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RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - irukandji - 02-25-2017

(02-25-2017, 09:02 PM)syscrash Wrote:
Quote:Actually unlike someone being dead things can be done to make Diana better and mom is on the lookout for ways to help Diana.
We are talking about a supernatural threat. So far Dalind has nothing to even help determine what it is.

Quote:The contradiction to all of this is the night Kelly was killed. Diana neither acted like an entity or like a child. A toddler would have been freaked out by out of the scuffling that took place before Kenneth said the fight should be taken outside. An entity, particularly one who viewed Kelly as a mother, would have taken powerful measures and prevented Kelly from being killed.

You are viewing it as Diana's reaction should fit what you think is reasonable. As we go along Diana seems to be more and more connected to what is coming. That being the case Diana as an entity could be biding her time until it get here. It could not matter to her where she is. That she liked Kelly may be true. But that does not mean she would make an effort to be with her.

No, I was talking about the night Kelly was killed. Diana's actions that night were not those of an entity or of a child.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - syscrash - 02-25-2017

Quote:No, I was talking about the night Kelly was killed. Diana's actions that night were not those of an entity or of a child.
Why would you expect Diana's actions the night Kelly was killed to be any different then they where Viktor took her. You are assuming she has a need to connect with people and make an effort to stay with them.
Diana seems to have more of an indifference to where and who she is with.
Take Grossante at any time Diana could have left or contacted Sean or Adalind. But what did she do. She played with Grossante like he was a rag doll. Diana battered the guy so bad he wanted to die. Yet in her opinion she was on a play date.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - MarylikesGrimm - 02-25-2017

(02-25-2017, 09:31 PM)syscrash Wrote:
Quote:No, I was talking about the night Kelly was killed. Diana's actions that night were not those of an entity or of a child.
Why would you expect Diana's actions the night Kelly was killed to be any different then they where Viktor took her. You are assuming she has a need to connect with people and make an effort to stay with them.
Diana seems to have more of an indifference to where and who she is with.
Take Grossante at any time Diana could have left or contacted Sean or Adalind. But what did she do. She played with Grossante like he was a rag doll. Diana battered the guy so bad he wanted to die. Yet in her opinion she was on a play date.

When Adalind was taking Diana to Nick's place for the first time, Diana asked about her dad multiple times.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - irukandji - 02-25-2017

(02-25-2017, 09:31 PM)syscrash Wrote: Why would you expect Diana's actions the night Kelly was killed to be any different then they where Viktor took her. You are assuming she has a need to connect with people and make an effort to stay with them. Diana seems to have more of an indifference to where and who she is with.

You were the one who said this about Diana, syscrash:

Quote:If you consider she is an entity then all she has done makes perfect sense. She has always gone where she would have the best opportunity to expand her abilities.

I didn't see anything in Diana that night that would lead me to believe she was acting as an entity. What exactly did she do on the night of Kelly's murder to ensure she would have the best opportunity to expand her abilities?


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - syscrash - 02-25-2017

Quote:When Adalind was taking Diana to Nick's place for the first time, Diana asked about her dad multiple times.
And what did Adalind do, She quickly appraised Diana by telling her she would take her to her dads in the morning.

Quote:I didn't see anything in Diana that night that would lead me to believe she was acting as an entity. What exactly did she do on the night of Kelly's murder to ensure she would have the best opportunity to expand her abilities?
She did nothing. that is what someone that is indifferent would do. If she did not like what was coming next she would do something else. As it turned out the King took flying lessons and Diana went with Meisner.
after being with HW Diana has learned a lot of tricks she did not have before HW. That does not mean she learned them from HW. But then again maybe she did. Seeing the results, leaving Kelly she has expanded her abilities.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - irukandji - 02-25-2017

(02-25-2017, 10:03 PM)syscrash Wrote:
Quote:When Adalind was taking Diana to Nick's place for the first time, Diana asked about her dad multiple times.
And what did Adalind do, She quickly appraised Diana by telling her she would take her to her dads in the morning.

Quote:I didn't see anything in Diana that night that would lead me to believe she was acting as an entity. What exactly did she do on the night of Kelly's murder to ensure she would have the best opportunity to expand her abilities?
She did nothing. that is what someone that is indifferent would do. If she did not like what was coming next she would do something else. As it turned out the King took flying lessons and Diana went with Meisner.
after being with HW Diana has learned a lot of tricks she did not have before HW. That does not mean she learned them from HW. But then again maybe she did. Seeing the results, leaving Kelly she has expanded her abilities.

If she's an entity who's looking for opportunities then she wouldn't be doing nothing. Doing nothing is not an opportunity.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - syscrash - 02-25-2017

Quote:If she's an entity who's looking for opportunities then she wouldn't be doing nothing. Doing nothing is not an opportunity.
You are mixing opportunity with ambition. Doing nothing and letting things happen can bring about opportunity. Even on a basic level Kelly wanted to teach her restraint. The Royals would most likely advocate for less restraint. Someone who wants to do what they want. would want to be with the one with the lease amount of restrictions. That is why I said ending up with HW. More then likely give her the lease amount of restrictions. Especially considering the things Eve learned to do.

From HW she is no in position to be in contact with the components of the prophecy., At each turn she seems to be where she needs to be. If as an entity she is trying to complete the prophecy. Then she is right on schedule.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - irukandji - 02-25-2017

(02-25-2017, 10:19 PM)syscrash Wrote: Doing nothing and letting things happen can bring about opportunity.

Why would that appeal to an entity? What you're saying makes no sense.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - syscrash - 02-25-2017

Quote:syscrash Wrote:
Doing nothing and letting things happen can bring about opportunity.

Why would that appeal to an entity? What you're saying makes no sense.
Because doing nothing put Daian in a place where she could learn new skills. Plus it made it possible for her to be in contact with the components of the prophecy. Had she stayed with Kelly she would not be close to the stick and cloth.


RE: So Diana doesn't know Juliette betrayed Kelly. - irukandji - 02-25-2017

(02-25-2017, 10:31 PM)syscrash Wrote:
Quote:syscrash Wrote:
Doing nothing and letting things happen can bring about opportunity.

Why would that appeal to an entity? What you're saying makes no sense.
Because doing nothing put Daian in a place where she could learn new skills. Plus it made it possible for her to be in contact with the components of the prophecy. Had she stayed with Kelly she would not be close to the stick and cloth.

What you're implying is that Diana had knowledge of the future. That makes no sense because if she had knowledge of the future she would have made sure she didn't go with Kelly in the first place.