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nick and his mom - WispyWillow - 12-08-2016
would kelly have continued to raise nick if he was already a grimm before she left?
she left him with another grimm.
she didn't have a problem running off with baby diana.
RE: nick and his mom - syscrash - 12-08-2016
Kelly ran off because those after her believed she was dead. That's why her son was with her sister the next living relative. If she had of ran with Nick they would realize she was still alive. Second she was a young Grimm then with not they connections she had when she showed up. She had experience in hiding. Unlike Nick who was able to have a normal child hood. Kelly knew Diana would never have a normal childhood no mater where she was. In season 6 that will be a big problem. How do you parent a child that has the power to do what she wants. Who has the cognitive abilities of an adult. Does anybody thank that anything said would have stopped her from going after Racheal. Adalind told her don't worry about Rachael. She also told her to not worry about the man that hurt her. Both times that person ended up dead.
RE: nick and his mom - WispyWillow - 12-08-2016
She went after the people that tried to kill her for revenge and to try to get the coins back.
Getting the coins back was more important to her. 20+ years and she was still chasing them.
How was nick safer with Marie. Marie was still a Grimm. Secluded Monroe was terrified of her. Renard and other royals were still watching them. Even years later. Somehow no one noticed her friend vanished the same night of the car accident.
She couldn't take care of nick but somehow she can take care of a powerful baby. How exactly would she have made Diana listen to her?
RE: nick and his mom - syscrash - 12-09-2016
They where not trying to kill Mari. They actually thought they killed Kelly. It was never said it was about the coins. Being a Grimm did not put them in danger. It was what ever Kelly was doing that made her a target.
RE: nick and his mom - brandon - 12-09-2016
They took the head for being a trophy "GRIMM".Who would that supposed friend be?.But maybe Nick would not have minded the danger,he would have wanted his mother with him.Your child might bill if you leave.Because Kelly without her father would be fine?.
Even if Nick died at age 50. His son would have wanted to be with him.Nick left with his aunt.Kelly stayed in the house.
While Reed and her friend? drove down the road.They would be watching because they went after the car.Where would they think to go with the car?.Would have another safe place?
RE: nick and his mom - syscrash - 12-09-2016
Quote:They took the head for being a trophy "GRIMM".Who would that supposed friend be?.But maybe Nick would not have minded the danger,he would have wanted his mother with him.Your child might bill if you leave.Because Kelly without her father would be fine?.
Even if Nick died at age 50. His son would have wanted to be with him.Nick left with his aunt.Kelly stayed in the house.
While Reed and her friend? drove down the road.They would be watching because they went after the car.Where would they think to go with the car?.Would have another safe place?
You are basing this comment on what makes emotional since. Just like with Diana. People make this argument that Diana needed to be with her mother. That Nick and the group should have been able to protect them. The same as Nick would have been happier knowing his mother was alive or even being on the run with her.
As for being able to protect someone from being killed. You would have to assume their is no such thing as a sniper on the roof. Or that there is not such thing as an assassin. The guy in the restaurant was armed and protected yet Eve dropped him with no problem. The emotional and moral arguments only makes since if you consider death better then separation.
IN Kelly's case the only way to ensure they would not kill her was to make them believe she was dead. In Diana's case they where not trying to kill Diana only the ones protecting her. If they did not have her there would be not reason to kill them. Especially if they thought someone else had taken her. The group put the resistant Nick in the noose instead of theirs. Adalind destroyed that. Which makes me really wonder what Adalind was think. Viktor lied to Adalin put her in the dungeon. I can not even find a far fetched idea how Adalind would think that working with Viktor would lead to her being with her daughter. She even said as much to Sean that they would kill her after getting Diana. That never crossed her mind while in Vienna. Wouldn't common say after finding out Viktor lied, Nick and the group would be the better bet. Even after taking his powers. It would make more sense to negotiate with the one who might be willing to overlook the past . Then the one you know you have no chance with.
Even how it played out proves she should have went with Nick and the group from the time she got back to Portland.
RE: nick and his mom - MarylikesGrimm - 12-09-2016
(12-08-2016, 11:00 PM)syscrash Wrote: Kelly ran off because those after her believed she was dead. That's why her son was with her sister the next living relative. If she had of ran with Nick they would realize she was still alive. Second she was a young Grimm then with not they connections she had when she showed up. She had experience in hiding. Unlike Nick who was able to have a normal child hood. Kelly knew Diana would never have a normal childhood no mater where she was. In season 6 that will be a big problem. How do you parent a child that has the power to do what she wants. Who has the cognitive abilities of an adult. Does anybody thank that anything said would have stopped her from going after Racheal. Adalind told her don't worry about Rachael. She also told her to not worry about the man that hurt her. Both times that person ended up dead.
Yes, that is why Adalind cannot take Diana to work or leave her alone because Diana kills wesen with little reason even when her parents are against it. Adalind will have to homeschool Diana for a while to try to socialize her.
RE: nick and his mom - syscrash - 12-09-2016
Quote:Yes, that is why Adalind cannot take Diana to work or leave her alone because Diana kills wesen with little reason even when her parents are against it. Adalind will have to homeschool Diana for a while to try to socialize her.
That would only make sense if Diana was limited by proximity. But since she can astro project. She can go where she wants create a grudge and then do something about it. Diana going to school would not be an issue. I have said several times. Her cognitive ability is that of an adult. She understands perfectly well what she can and can not do in public. She is not shown to be a bully. But if bullied I would feel sorry for her attacker. Diana would wait till later to take out her revenge. There is a difference between exacting revenge and being a psychopath. Diana has never been shown to be a psychopath. A bigger question is why would Diana even need to go to school. She seems to be doing quite well being self educated. Then there is the other problem. How would you ever be able to put her into the system. Aging as fast as she does any record of her existence would eventual cause people to question what she is. Like Nick said she does not have a birth certificate or any record of her existence. Even on HW records her birthrate is blank.
As for taking her to work. With her abilities she would be a welcome addition to the law firm. Her astro projection could really come in handy. Added to that her ability to control people and make them do what she wants them to. That would make Adalind's ability to manipulate through touch seem like nothing. Compared to Diana being able to manipulate from a distance.
RE: nick and his mom - MarylikesGrimm - 12-09-2016
(12-09-2016, 07:26 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Yes, that is why Adalind cannot take Diana to work or leave her alone because Diana kills wesen with little reason even when her parents are against it. Adalind will have to homeschool Diana for a while to try to socialize her.
That would only make sense if Diana was limited by proximity. But since she can astro project. She can go where she wants create a grudge and then do something about it. Diana going to school would not be an issue. I have said several times. Her cognitive ability is that of an adult. She understands perfectly well what she can and can not do in public.
Sorry, I see no evidence that she has the mind of an adult and she is not allowed in public so her behavior would likely be problem there. The way she uses dolls to force her parents together shows she has the mind of a 8 year old child. The more people she knows the more issues she can cause. David G. has stated that the out of control hexenbiest for season 6 will be Diana not Eve or Adalind.
Adalind has a law degree and I expect that Renard has a college degree so their expectation would likely be that Diana go to college and she will need more schooling for that.
RE: nick and his mom - syscrash - 12-09-2016
Quote:Sorry, I see no evidence that she has the mind of an adult and she is not allowed in public so her behavior would likely be problem there. The way she uses dolls to force her parents together shows she has the mind of a 8 year old child. The more people she knows the more issues she can cause. David G. has stated that the out of control hexenbiest for season 6 will be Diana not Eve or Adalind.
Adalind has a law degree and I expect that Renard has a college degree so their expectation would likely be that Diana go to college and she will need more schooling for that.
I don't know what kids you know. But the concept of what it would take for your parents to want to have sex. Is beyond the kids I know. What kids even know there parents even have sex. Even once kids knows where babies come from. What kid tries to have their parents have sex.
As for Rachael. To realize the extent of Sean and Rachael's relationship would take a fare amount of insight. Diana's comment of Rachael liking daddy would mean she understands they are more then friends. That is something even an eight year old would not realize unless they saw physical signs of affection. An eight year old does not understand body language. A lot of adults do not understand body language.
As for Diana's future. Remember she is special and she can get what she wants with magic. You say Adalind has a law degree. Yet it was not her degree that her employer was interested in. If her degree was that important she could have said. I no longer work as a hexenbiest. As for Sean having a degree. Why would that be the case. He has never spoke of any formal training. He has always used his abilities instead of his knowledge. He uses power and intimidation. Not tact and finesse. Even as a poiice captain he has never been shown to have a good grasp of the law. He is a great politician but that does not take a degree. It only takes the ability to manipulate what people think and how they perceive him. As a zauberbiest he would be good at that.