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RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - syscrash - 04-13-2015 Nick keeps turning grey when really pushed. Each time someone snaps him out of his going Grey. I expect to she him not be stopped and going to full on zombie Grimm. Have it make the point Juliette is not the only monster in the family. Have Nick also go through the same persecution that Juliette is feeling. RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - droid327 - 04-13-2015 (04-13-2015, 09:34 AM)Hexenadler Wrote: Everyone seems to be so cavalier about the fact Nick's a Grimm these days, I'd love to see an episode where he's provoked to the point when his vaguely-defined powers are cranked up to an almost unprecedented level that even causes his fellow Grimm to wet themselves in abject terror - as well as the complete demolition of his opponent (preferably Kenneth). I'm talking about the sort of OTT "rage mode" that's normally only seen in crazy anime cartoons. No I don't think I'd want to see his power level go up over 9000. That's the kind of power creep that ruins a show...because after that point, then every new bad guy has to be a threat that's plausible even if Nick *does* go Beast Mode on them. That's why I kinda like that they've left Nick's powers purposefully vague, so they don't paint themselves into a corner where the audience just goes "well why can't Nick just do XXXX like he did before?" They've already had to do that with the whole Adalind-is-a-Hexenbiest thing ("why cant Nick just take her powers away like he did with Adalind?"), and the more they have to write around obstacles they've created for themselves, the more awkward the show will be. It would be satisfying to see him go Super Saiyan on Kenneth, but I'd prefer it if he just kicked his normal mortal badass meter up to 11. The best fight scenes in the show so far aren't where he wins by his Grimm powers being overwhelming, but the ones where his Grimmitude lets him hold his own, but its the other parts of his character - his police training, his resourcefulness, his family and friends - that put him over the top. Maybe Kenneth is a Grimm himself, and they have some special Grimm vs Grimm fight, but I wouldn't want Nick to win just by out-Grimming him, or even using his "stolen Wesen powers", but by being more clever and/or having friends that have his back. Nick at his very best isn't when he's the *most* Grimm he can be, its when he's *more* than just a Grimm, and that's what makes him special. RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - Hexenadler - 04-13-2015 (04-13-2015, 01:16 PM)droid327 Wrote: No I don't think I'd want to see his power level go up over 9000. That's the kind of power creep that ruins a show...because after that point, then every new bad guy has to be a threat that's plausible even if Nick *does* go Beast Mode on them. That's why I kinda like that they've left Nick's powers purposefully vague, so they don't paint themselves into a corner where the audience just goes "well why can't Nick just do XXXX like he did before?" I already provided a reason in the "Juliette as a hexenbiest" thread. To repeat: If Nick allowed himself to go "super saiyan" (as you'd put it), the resulting burnout phase would leave him flat on his back for at least a fortnight, during which he's almost completely helpless. RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - Samsarilian - 04-13-2015 If Nick gets a supped up mode it is not hard to write multiple down sides. Full Zombie => Flat on back for weeks (Hexenadler's suggestion) but only after he is brought in and given anti Zombie Juice => City wide distruction in between. He would have to learn to recognize and control that and not let it happen EVER. Nicks conscience becomes the limiting factor, "Yes, I can ramp up but are the rampage and deaths that follow worth it?" RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - grimmfreak - 04-16-2015 I know I might get some flack for saying this but did Silas Weir Mitchell not phone it in a bit this episode, especially when he was explaining why he Woged when Roselle walked in. A local friend that watched the show thought the same so I know I'm not the only one who thinks so... RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - Kathryn Wooten - 04-18-2015 (04-11-2015, 02:22 AM)Hexenadler Wrote: I have to say, I was a little uncomfortable about how Nick and Hank ditched a grieving daughter this week. I get they need to maintain professional distance in their work, but the speed at which they moved on was kind of disconcerting. Wu also does not know about Renard, which I think he'll find out in the finale As for renard I think that was not a vision, but the enitiy I believe crack through a portal from the underworld, when he was brought back from the brink of death by his mother and when those bloody clawed hands reach out for Renard he was now possessed. and I believe will be the Jack the ripper everyone's looking for..sadly I believe who ever finds out the truth about renard will end up dying/killed by Renard and poor Renard is unable to stop it. that's my thought RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - Mauvais Don - 04-27-2015 (04-10-2015, 06:57 PM)GrimmForum Wrote: Right synopsis, but image is from the next week's show. RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - Gretel Hanselsister - 04-27-2015 (04-27-2015, 07:09 AM)Mauvais Don Wrote: Right synopsis, but image is from the next week's show. Thanks, fixed. RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - Kathryn Wooten - 04-27-2015 What if that was not Renard who came into his bedroom , when Juliette came in, Remember he was so loose with the information about Adaline, where to find her . As we have seen , when Renard is in distress and in serious pain, that the entity takes over his body. Very convenient that his wounds and the agonizing pain ripped into Renard , when he was kicking Kenneth @@s. could the entity jumped in a weaken Renard then??? and ,was occupying his body , when Juliette seduced him??? could be very possible. If you saw the scene Renard was fully clothed and then in pajamas after rough kissing Juliette...It's a possibility that Renard was not in control with Juliette. RE: S4E17 - Hibernaculum - syscrash - 04-27-2015 (04-27-2015, 10:18 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: What if that was not Renard who came into his bedroom , when Juliette came in, Remember he was so loose with the information about Adaline, where to find her . As we have seen , when Renard is in distress and in serious pain, that the entity takes over his body. Very convenient that his wounds and the agonizing pain ripped into Renard , when he was kicking Kenneth @@s. could the entity jumped in a weaken Renard then??? and ,was occupying his body , when Juliette seduced him??? could be very possible. We did see Sean wake up. The kiss with Juliette could have been in his mind. The reason, why would he want his key back and then send Juliette to go after Adalind. I am thinking Juliette is still staying with Sean. |