02-06-2018, 02:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-06-2018, 02:27 PM by dicappatore.)
(02-06-2018, 12:17 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: When he pulled out his gun, it was because he thought she was Adalind. From the beginning Nick was confronted with the knowledge that he "made" her into that hexenbiest. It's not difficult to attribute that his turning aside. He felt guilty. Regardless both Nick and Juliette handled things badly after she turned
rp, you just exposed one of the "TRICKS" that some use to change the meanings of "FACTS". Making a false opinion and claim it as a fact. (Oh My God, He pulled out a gun on the love of his life is proof he wanted to kill the Hexenbiest). You know, I know, and a few of us also know it. He believed it was Adalind as Juliette again. Once he was convinced it was Juliette, telling him of his failed proposal, he holstered the gun.
That is exactly why Nick pulled out his gun. Gees, even Juliette knew it. But this is what Nick haters do. Thanks You for exposing the truth and the miss-interpretations of what is clearly not what they claim.
(02-06-2018, 10:25 AM)eric Wrote:(02-06-2018, 09:41 AM)dicappatore Wrote:A long and wonderful marriage has taught me that if something really big and bad happens(and it has several times in real life) and you decide to leave in a huff and stay gone for any length of time, things go south from there. I have always said that I would have slumped down on the couch and tried to start to begin to try to talk it out, not look disgusted and walk out and spend the night somewhere else. Nick was not the only detective in Portland. If I get a call from work saying they need me to come in and I have more important problems at home, I tell them I'm sick or have taken a little trip and can't come in--hope my boss is not on this forum. If you discover you have a dread disease you may not mention it to your better half until you meet with a specialist, when that doesn't work you fest up and hope for some understanding. I never understood how Nick could come home, find a body on the floor and accept "he tripped" and just dump the body, no questions asked. Neither one of them was blameless for what happened, neither of them handled it we all would have with our perfect 20/20 hindsight.(02-06-2018, 08:54 AM)eric Wrote: I do not see her reluctance to tell Nick about her hex change as a lack of trust so much as an abundance of history. She asked him something along the line about Adeline not being a hex, he said "whats wrong with one less hex". Her dream about beheading was spot on, based on his history. When she did woge in front of him, he drew his gun, went into shock, then left for the night. Her look said "well, that relationship sure is down the drain". He comes back the next day, says lets work this out, maybe there is a cure(she needs to be "cured"-her new condition can maybe be changed, he sees her as diseased, she woges again and he turns away and looks totally disgusted with her, even he had seen several hexs woge and he didn't have trouble looking at them. Can't say I blame him, a real shocker, but how's a girl supposed to take all that?
But eric, she was rejecting her condition for weeks before she disclosed of her situation to Nick. My question to you is, did she go to Renard to express her jubilation of becoming a hex? or to find a cure/reversal. Did she go to Henrietta to get books to study her new found powers or was it to cure/reverse her condition?
Some how, it was fine for her to reject what she was becoming for weeks in advance. Yet, you and a few, and I have to stress, "A Few", others expected for Nick to brush it off as just another evening with someone breaking in the house. What did you expect Nick to reply to her, after divulging she is now a Hex by "oh really? Ok, whats for dinner?
How come you can accept her own rejection of becoming a Hex for weeks, yet expect for Nick to accept her instantly. OK, so it took him a day and a night to accept her. Then, somehow, Nick suggesting to look for a cure equated to rejection, for doing the exact same thing she was trying to do for weeks. Just one more examples of Nick being treated unfairly for the situation.
Then to accuse Nick and company of rejecting her from the start, as a monster, is another opinion made into a facts. She knew how resourceful they were as a unit. She was involved in many situations with them in resolving what seemed to be unsolvable. Did she seek their advice? NOPE! She never did, but did hold Nick accountable for trying.
The gang never turned against her from the start. They turned against her after she rejected Nick and any attempts to help her and devious actions against them. They were reacting to her demise as Juliette and her welcoming reaction to becoming a Hex.
They were "Reactive", not "Pro-Active". Nick tried to be pro-active. It resulted of her walking out on him. Just one more fact turned into, Nick walking out on her!
If there is anyone to blame for Nick and Co. to look at her and treat her like a monster, it would be Juliette, after she became one.
Well, i am up to 42 years of marriage to the same wife and things haven't been all rosy and fairy tales either. As for the examples you have given on how Nick conducted himself in that failed relationship, I would have handled things a lot different.
I myself have had instances in the 45 years of knowing my wife, with 42 of them as married, of putting my job first to my marriage and family but I did put an end to it before it got out of control, more than once. Once or twice, layoffs helped.
To reference how Nick did what he did, I will be happy to refer you to Robyn. She has a much better way to analyze the mistakes the creative team made, than me by just saying, they sucked.
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!