06-05-2016, 11:47 AM
She was loyal..but seemed to care for Sean and Sean to her..wish we knew more about her..Her death will be senseless ..if Diana does not continue to try to get her parents together
06-05-2016, 11:47 AM
She was loyal..but seemed to care for Sean and Sean to her..wish we knew more about her..Her death will be senseless ..if Diana does not continue to try to get her parents together
06-05-2016, 12:37 PM
(06-05-2016, 11:47 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: She was loyal..but seemed to care for Sean and Sean to her..wish we knew more about her..Her death will be senseless ..if Diana does not continue to try to get her parents together I am not sure why you would say that. Her death bluntly illustrated the dangers of emotional and intellectual immaturity, in this case the reference is to Diana. This is why you do not give loaded guns to 5 year olds. Children lead a rather hedonistic life (not unlike at least one forum member) and think the world should be bent to reflect their innate wishes or desires and everyone should behave in accordance with their wishes (once again like at least one forum member). So as a standalone part of the epic, it illustrates the dangers of emotional immaturity, especially when encased in what appears to be a more adult body relative to the inhabitants cognitive and emotional maturity. Personally I think that is a statement worth making.
Oxford commas are so totally rad!.
06-05-2016, 03:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-05-2016, 03:27 PM by Kathryn Wooten.)
(06-05-2016, 12:37 PM)izzy Wrote:I just think killing her would be all for not if it does not lead to the parents death.....if she dies and Adalind goes back to Nick( which I do not see coming for a minute) Rachel death was filler...because she killed someone Sean actually liked...and if she does not try to do it to Nick..then the death of Rachel was pointless...If she scared her or made her run crying in terror, then that would have been better , then killing someone because someone liked her daddy.(06-05-2016, 11:47 AM)Kathryn Wooten Wrote: She was loyal..but seemed to care for Sean and Sean to her..wish we knew more about her..Her death will be senseless ..if Diana does not continue to try to get her parents together
06-05-2016, 03:48 PM
Rachel was loyal to BC. She enjoyed her sexual trysts with Renard well enough, but the moment it became clear to her that they would become a liability for "the cause," she told him to get out.
06-05-2016, 04:16 PM
Hello Forum,
Izzy commented: Quote:I am not sure why you would say that. Her death bluntly illustrated the dangers of emotional and intellectual immaturity, in this case the reference is to Diana.Google defines a hedonist as: Quote:a person who believes that the pursuit of pleasure is the most important thing in life; a pleasure-seeker.It seems Diana has no need for a "loaded gun" since she was able to kill an attacker from Adalind's womb. I'm not seeing how Diana's murder of Rachel was hedonistic. Diana's unusual growth rate makes her "age" difficult to determine. IMO, she is not an adult. Most of the other characters are over age 21 and should be "emotionally mature." This paper: http://hubpages.com/education/Emotion-In...ture-Adult states: Quote:immaturity is simply behavior coming from someone who only thinks of himself or herself. In other words, they are self-centered, self-absorbed, selfish, uncaring, feel they are better, think you are different, and so on.That premise seems reasonable. Another paper: http://www.solitaryroad.com/a406.html lists life pursuits and poses some related questions, such as: Quote:What is more important in life --- spiritual understanding or pleasure?The bottom line is that we who post on the Forum will have significantly differing opinions of characters and their actions. I wish each of you all the best and may you attain those pursuits that bring you, your friends and family deep true fulfillment. New Guy
06-05-2016, 04:33 PM
If you're a child and see your father hurting your mother, you might not have the maturity to understand that grabbing Daddy's gun from the nightstand and shooting him five or six times to stop him may not be the appropriate action to take, but that wouldn't be only thinking of yourself.
06-05-2016, 05:02 PM
(06-05-2016, 04:33 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: If you're a child and see your father hurting your mother, you might not have the maturity to understand that grabbing Daddy's gun from the nightstand and shooting him five or six times to stop him may not be the appropriate action to take, but that wouldn't be only thinking of yourself.Hi Face, My wish is that no child ever have to confront such a situation. Unfortunately some kids do live with a daddy who is violent. The article I referenced "Emotion Intelligence: Signs and Behavior of Emotionally Immature Adult" examines adult behaviors. IMO, Renard is "self-centered, self-absorbed, selfish, uncaring, feels he is better, thinks you are different, and so on." He ordered murders (Marie and Eric). He cut off a "reaper's ?" ear. He had no reaction upon learning his father (King Freaderick) was dead. The full list is extensive. Would you want him to be your mayor? I surely would not.
06-05-2016, 05:27 PM
Oh, I definitely agree on both points. My point was, that there are other forms of immaturity besides self-centeredness, and I think it would be a mistake to think that adults are not subject to them as well.
06-06-2016, 03:44 AM
(06-05-2016, 05:02 PM)New Guy Wrote:(06-05-2016, 04:33 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: If you're a child and see your father hurting your mother, you might not have the maturity to understand that grabbing Daddy's gun from the nightstand and shooting him five or six times to stop him may not be the appropriate action to take, but that wouldn't be only thinking of yourself.Hi Face, He did order the murder of Nick's aunt ( and that was wrong) The death of Eric..I can understand.. He zombiefied Nick try to take him out of the country...zombied alot of citizens As for his father why would Sean give 2 hoots or shed a tear for the person who allowed the queen to banish them from Vienna his own father turned a blind eye and let the queen order his and his mother's death.His own father sent out killers if he did not turn over the Key . He sent Kenneth to take his daughter Diana away from him or he would have been killed and so would his mother ....yep I can not understand why Sean did not fall on his knees and cry like a baby for his"loving" father..I can not see how Sean turned out the way he didand felt it is all about him and his survival then there is the reaper who came into town to kill Nick...I guess you wanted Sean to stand aside and let him to this Yes Renard is for himself...because he grew up trying to stay alive from the humans who were trying to kill him his parents..a family he was in line to be king....he and his mother was on the run for their lives for most of his teenage years, till they were smuggled out of the country....Yep Sean should not be self absorbed, only thinking of himself..He has no reason what so ever for this sort of behavior.....Right??
06-06-2016, 04:18 AM
Hi Kathryn,
You assembled quite a list of excuses for poor Sean Boy. I don't buy any of it. His behavior is inexcusable. IMO, Renard has been evil since the pilot. The prediction is Renard will be the Big Bad for season 6. http://www.enstarz.com/articles/160247/2...-video.htm Many of us await Nick's revenge on that self centered sleaze bag. Sleaze: immoral, sordid, and corrupt behavior or material, especially in business or politics. Perfect description of Renard. New Guy |
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