(02-27-2017, 01:02 PM)irukandji Wrote: If Sean had remained dead, hexenbiest Juliette/Eve would not have been created.
Kind of lose me on this one. What does Sean staying dead have to do with Eve? Granted Elizabeth showed up to help Sean, so was there to help get Nick Grimm back, but Sean's stay dead wouldn't have changed anything. Now you can connect Elizabeth to both so why only Sean as opening the gate? Could have been both were needed to change reality.
(02-27-2017, 02:20 PM)irukandji Wrote: Did Elizabeth show up to raise Sean from the dead or did she show up to help Nick?
according to a reality event occuring in a fiction show, she was there to save sean but according to the direction of events in the show both.
i don't think she created an alternate reality cos with/without sean, juliette would still have gotten a hand on that hexenbiest sealed book as she is that perseverant on information and she would have known about it without sean, blackclaw would have still taken over portland without sean
(02-27-2017, 02:20 PM)irukandji Wrote: Did Elizabeth show up to raise Sean from the dead or did she show up to help Nick?
according to a reality event occuring in a fiction show, she was there to save sean but according to the direction of events in the show both.
i don't think she created an alternate reality cos with/without sean, juliette would still have gotten a hand on that hexenbiest sealed book as she is that perseverant on information and she would have known about it without sean, blackclaw would have still taken over portland without sean
In my opinion, Juliette wouldn't be interested in any hexenbiest book had she remained human.
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02-27-2017, 02:42 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2017, 02:43 PM by degrimm.)
(02-27-2017, 02:38 PM)irukandji Wrote:
(02-27-2017, 02:32 PM)degrimm Wrote:
(02-27-2017, 02:20 PM)irukandji Wrote: Did Elizabeth show up to raise Sean from the dead or did she show up to help Nick?
according to a reality event occuring in a fiction show, she was there to save sean but according to the direction of events in the show both.
i don't think she created an alternate reality cos with/without sean, juliette would still have gotten a hand on that hexenbiest sealed book as she is that perseverant on information and she would have known about it without sean, blackclaw would have still taken over portland without sean
In my opinion, Juliette wouldn't be interested in any hexenbiest book had she remained human.
yeah but rosalee might have still found a way to make nick a grimm again and that would have involved juliette then juliette becomes hexenbiest and the rest would be history cos she actually blamed monroe, rosalee and nick but elizabeth to a lesser extent
(02-27-2017, 02:20 PM)irukandji Wrote: Did Elizabeth show up to raise Sean from the dead or did she show up to help Nick?
according to a reality event occuring in a fiction show, she was there to save sean but according to the direction of events in the show both.
i don't think she created an alternate reality cos with/without sean, juliette would still have gotten a hand on that hexenbiest sealed book as she is that perseverant on information and she would have known about it without sean, blackclaw would have still taken over portland without sean
In my opinion, Juliette wouldn't be interested in any hexenbiest book had she remained human.
yeah but rosalee might have still found a way to make nick a grimm again and that would have involved juliette then juliette becomes hexenbiest and the rest would be history cos she actually blamed monroe, rosalee and nick but elizabeth to a lesser extent
But again, I was looking at the definites here. Because Elizabeth intervened, Juliette became a hexenbiest. It makes me wonder if this whole star charting and beast is a prophecy that came to pass because Elizabeth created an alternate reality.
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(02-27-2017, 02:20 PM)irukandji Wrote: Did Elizabeth show up to raise Sean from the dead or did she show up to help Nick?
according to a reality event occuring in a fiction show, she was there to save sean but according to the direction of events in the show both.
i don't think she created an alternate reality cos with/without sean, juliette would still have gotten a hand on that hexenbiest sealed book as she is that perseverant on information and she would have known about it without sean, blackclaw would have still taken over portland without sean
In my opinion, Juliette wouldn't be interested in any hexenbiest book had she remained human.
yeah but rosalee might have still found a way to make nick a grimm again and that would have involved juliette then juliette becomes hexenbiest and the rest would be history cos she actually blamed monroe, rosalee and nick but elizabeth to a lesser extent
But again, I was looking at the definites here. Because Elizabeth intervened, Juliette became a hexenbiest. It makes me wonder if this whole star charting and beast is a prophecy that came to pass because Elizabeth created an alternate reality.
yeah she probably changed the course of destiny for juliette from what the spanish woman told juliette in season 2
(02-27-2017, 02:20 PM)irukandji Wrote: Did Elizabeth show up to raise Sean from the dead or did she show up to help Nick?
according to a reality event occuring in a fiction show, she was there to save sean but according to the direction of events in the show both.
i don't think she created an alternate reality cos with/without sean, juliette would still have gotten a hand on that hexenbiest sealed book as she is that perseverant on information and she would have known about it without sean, blackclaw would have still taken over portland without sean
In my opinion, Juliette wouldn't be interested in any hexenbiest book had she remained human.
yeah but rosalee might have still found a way to make nick a grimm again and that would have involved juliette then juliette becomes hexenbiest and the rest would be history cos she actually blamed monroe, rosalee and nick but elizabeth to a lesser extent
As in 603, you need a biest to help make the potion. If Sean is dead and Liz only ran a funeral, she might have never known that Nick used to be a grimm or felt the need to turn into one again. Even if she found out about him being a grimm would have likely found out about DIana. IMO she would have only "helped" Nick if she could get Diana back but I do not see how Nick could have promised her toddler "Diana".
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.