Good question I suppose - but compared to what else? what other possibilities could you make that comparison?
I guess those who don't like the concept (but why are they here if they don't like the Grimm 'concept'?) are anti-capital punishment. IF there's going to be Grimms in the world, then Nick is the perfect modern and all-time prototype for the best outcome for society.
I was watching a couple of episodes last night where it displayed what makes him a good model in the episode with Daniel, the young kid who they thought was possessed and the exchange at the end of the story between Nick and Alexander.
I mean, Nick is a modern-day judge/jury/executioner (when need be), but he's able to temper things - and often with Juliette's help - so that no one has to die without all angles of a problem person (Wesen) being explored - all avenues being studied. I mean, Alexander was ready, able and willing to carry out his position as executioner once given the order.
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07-20-2017, 03:50 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2017, 04:08 PM by irukandji.)
(07-20-2017, 08:50 AM)bart Wrote: Many people on this board don't like the concept of Grimm why is that?
I think this was probably directed at me since I'm the one who posed the question asking if grimms were a cancer to the earth.
**Please note***
I asked a question. I *did not* make a comment stating I didn't like the concept of a grimm.
You also need to keep in mind that my question was in regard to the to the evolution of wesen and grimm in general. That is an altogether different type of discussion than posing a comment about hating grimms.
(07-20-2017, 10:15 AM)silver Wrote: IF there's going to be Grimms in the world, then Nick is the perfect modern and all-time prototype for the best outcome for society.
Hmmm, I don't know about that. I get that the series promotes him as a rebel with cool books and a bunch of weapons at his disposal, but wouldn't he be considered more of a vigilante than a prototype for a societal utopia?
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Well, irukandji, This is what I found when I looked up the definition of vigilante: a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.
I'm not quite sure what you think vigilanti-ism is, or what they are, but I'd say that's a good thing. Of course, it's all going to come out better IF those vigilantes aren't overly concerned with pure action, as opposed to stopping and thinking first.
I'm having trouble placing your comment, "series promotes him as a rebel with cool books and a bunch of weapons at his disposal," into anything very deep in meaning for such a conversation. I mean, if we're going to talk about it, then we should be serious as long as the convo lasts, anyway.
But I see that this question apparently stems from a previous comment, so I'll take that into consideration.
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(07-20-2017, 04:34 PM)silver Wrote: Well, irukandji, This is what I found when I looked up the definition of vigilante: a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.
I'm not quite sure what you think vigilanti-ism is, or what they are, but I'd say that's a good thing. Of course, it's all going to come out better IF those vigilantes aren't overly concerned with pure action, as opposed to stopping and thinking first.
I'm having trouble placing your comment, "series promotes him as a rebel with cool books and a bunch of weapons at his disposal," into anything very deep in meaning for such a conversation. I mean, if we're going to talk about it, then we should be serious as long as the convo lasts, anyway.
But I see that this question apparently stems from a previous comment, so I'll take that into consideration.
silver, a vigilante doesn't have to be a member of a group. They can be acting on their own. There are a number of definitions out there, not just the one you referenced.
As for comments, what about this one:
Quote:I guess those who don't like the concept (but why are they here if they don't like the Grimm 'concept'?) are anti-capital punishment. IF there's going to be Grimms in the world, then Nick is the perfect modern and all-time prototype for the best outcome for society.
Not to point fingers but it doesn't sound real serious to me either.....just saying.
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07-20-2017, 04:44 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2017, 04:44 PM by silver.)
Nick was just learning about being a Grimm, so he had no idea that he WAS a part of a group of 'vigilantes' as you refer to them. So, not real sure why you bother to say that a vigilante doesn't have to be a member of a group. I provided what I thought was a basic definition that I googled on the spur of the moment - not to highlight that I thought they had to be part of a group. But Grimms ARe a group, so I find that comment of yours confusing but seems you're the one who's confused.
Um, plus I have no idea who you're not pointing fingers at. XD
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(07-20-2017, 04:44 PM)silver Wrote: Nick was just learning about being a Grimm, so he had no idea that he WAS a part of a group of 'vigilantes' as you refer to them. So, not real sure why you bother to say that a vigilante doesn't have to be a member of a group. I provided what I thought was a basic definition that I googled on the spur of the moment - not to highlight that I thought they had to be part of a group. But Grimms ARe a group, so I find that comment of yours confusing but seems you're the one who's confused.
Um, plus I have no idea who you're not pointing fingers at. XD
(Laughs) I'm not confused. Go on with your discussion.
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Hmmm, I don't know about that. I get that the series promotes him as a rebel with cool books and a bunch of weapons at his disposal, but wouldn't he be considered more of a vigilante than a prototype for a societal utopia?
Hmmm, I don't know about that. I get that the series promotes him as a rebel with cool books and a bunch of weapons at his disposal, but wouldn't he be considered more of a vigilante than a prototype for a societal utopia?
But Wesen are not people.
This is a first for me. I understood wesen to be part human.
If you believe wesen aren't human, are you saying Nick isn't human either?
The best way to frustrate a cyberbully is to ignore him.
Hmmm, I don't know about that. I get that the series promotes him as a rebel with cool books and a bunch of weapons at his disposal, but wouldn't he be considered more of a vigilante than a prototype for a societal utopia?
But Wesen are not people.
This is a first for me. I understood wesen to be part human.
If you believe wesen aren't human, are you saying Nick isn't human either?
