(11-04-2018, 12:46 PM)irukandji Wrote: If the new books were so important, why was there an attempt to sell them to Meisner? Surely Monroe didn't think Meisner was just going to let him keep the books and paraphenalia. And even when that deal fell through, when was it ever shown that Nick absolutely could not do without the books and/or weapons?
I don’t think this is correct. Monroe didn’t try to sell the books to Meisner. The books where owned by Felix, who contacted Monroe to get in contact with Nick. He had heard about Nick because Monroe's mother “couldn't keep her mouth shut” – according to Rosalee (deleted scene). But Felix demanded a high price (I think it was $100.000 for one book), so Meisner was brought into the picture because of the funding. The books where intended for Nick, because he was a Grimm. This issue was resolved when Felix was killed and they just moved everything into Monroe’s basement. Back to the importants of the books and weapons. This was one of the cornerstones in Nicks life as a Grimm. In almost all “wesen of the week episodes”, Nick used information from the books and/or weapons.
(11-04-2018, 12:46 PM)irukandji Wrote: Apparently quite a few people believed Juliette could kill Adalind in the precinct. Don't you remember the outrage because an unborn baby was involved? I don't know why you'd have such a hard time believing Juliette couldn't kill Adalind when most of the posters here felt she could have done it without breaking a sweat.
As for Nick, if Juliette had left when he told her to get out, I do not believe that it was over between them. I don't think anyone on the forum believes that. As long as she's alive and out there, she is a representation of his enemy. Sooner or later he's going to go after her. As to who helps him? Hank and Wu are certainly possibilities. I would suspect that perhaps Monroe and Rosalee would be more useful, since it's not wise to go up against Juliette with a gun.
If that's not enough, then consider Trubel. You seem to think that because Nick is not as powerful as Juliette, he would simply back away and let her go.
Juliette was more powerful than Trubel. Yet Trubel took her down easily with a crossbow and a couple of drugged and well placed arrows. If Juliette had escaped that night I'm assuming Nick and his gang could come up with something that actually poisonous. It seems all it takes with these hexenbiests is a diversion in order to kill them. Don't you believe Nick is capable of formulating a plan? As for whether Nick *can* kill her, that is something that would remain to be seen, since it only could have occurred *if* Juliette had escaped that night.
There are two answers to this: 1) Of course Nick could have killed Juliette. He was the hero of the series, the Grimm, and according to Kelly and Marie, could "defeat all evil". That’s kind of the point of being a superhero-like figure in a show like this. Juliette could not kill him, because then the show would have ended. Nick was the only main character. 2) We know Juliette could be killed, because she WAS killed (sort of).
I don’t know what Nick would have done if she escaped that night. If she left Portland and never came back, I doubt Nick would have hunted her down. He would most likely have given priority to taking care of Adalind and Kelly and everything else going on.
(11-04-2018, 12:46 PM)irukandji Wrote: Juliette sends an email stating Nick is in danger and needs help. You're not getting it, that that, in itself should send a clear and powerful message to Kelly that she shouldn't be bringing a toddler to a gunfight.
Kelly could not have left Diana behand. She had nowhere to take her. That's why Juliette knew she was with Diana. She thought the house was safe and that Juliette would give her more information about Nick. Again, she had no reason not to trust Juliette. She would not bring Diana to the house unless Juliette said it was safe.